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Piranha rethink Transverse goals, Reddit lock-down and apologies

Piranha rethink Transverse goals, Reddit lock-down and apologies

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It’s another day in the world of Transverse and Piranha Games could be finally waking up to the problems.

This week has been a tough week for Piranha Games games following the announcement of Transverse, what with ludicrous funding goals, a Wing Commander relationship/ship copy accusations, and then the complete Reddit mess.

Could they be actually waking up now that they’ve been called-out by the community? Possibly, maybe?

Piranha has now changed their funding goals and there’s a new starter tier at $500,000. This new tier is their way of reassuring backers that if that goal is not met they won’t be left out in the cold should the funds fall short.

The $500,000 goal gets us to an alpha state on ship construction, flight, combat, and harvesting. While release of the final, fully developed feature for each module is dependent on future funding, this is our first major step towards making this trans-human spacesim a reality. Backers who are a part of hitting this goal will get full access to the alpha builds.

If this goal is not met within the time remaining below (days to reach goal), all backers will be refunded 100%!

The refund is slightly more reassuring for anyone who really wants to take the plunge right now and alpha access is also thrown in which is more like a Kickstarter campaign.

So what’s going on with Reddit and Transverse? Overnight the Piranha Games team are now back in control of the /r/Transverse channel but have decided to lock it down. It’s now empty. Community manager Niko commented:

Hey guys!

Due to some extreme clone account presence by a few people who feel an overwhelming need to be negative on all of our official channels, I’ve had to add a few temporary emergency measures.
Reddit is going to be on an approved poster lock-down until we get a few more discussions going as well as have some good standing Redditors to handle the brunt of moderation.
For now, any negative swarming and spamming behavior has been removed, and the lockdown remains. Please do continue your discussions here though! (forums)

Niko also went on to explain their version of events when they set up the channel.

Hey everyone,

Thank you all for your feedback, comments, and concerns.

When I set up the r/Transverse Sub-Reddit, my intent was to have a spot where players could go and find any official information regarding the game on Reddit. We often note that some players cannot visit our forums or sites at all hours due to work or school network policies, which is why we had hoped to create a place on Reddit not unlike the Dev Corner.

Based on the reddiquette guidelines it seems possible we over moderated. With this in mind we are going to focus back intently on our own forums for each product, I look forward to interacting with you there.

I apologize personally and sincerely from the bottom of my heart for anyone who has taken this matter as a personal offence, and hope we can move forward together as a community as we introduce bigger and better announcements more directly related to our games.

Thanks for your time.

“Over moderated”? That’s an understatement, most of the subreddit was nuked in the first 24 hours of opening.

Now there’s been an apology about their conduct we should feel more reassured that it’s onwards and upwards for Transverse and Piranha Games. It’s encouraging to see they’ve revised their starting goal which offers some reassurance of a refund if it’s not met.  However, the way in which Piranha has conducted themselves this week, and the way in which they deal with their community, it’s not a good sign of what’s to come further down the road.

Another space game would be great, competition is always good, it helps push the boundaries of what can be achieved in the genre. Transverse may be an excellent idea, it’s the way in which it’s being handled, and will likely be handled in the future, that makes backing this game risky.

The funding goal since Tuesday has now reached a whopping 1% with $6560 of the $500,000 having been funded with 27 days to go. I’ll say it again, be very cautious about backing Transverse.

Talk to other members of the Piranha community about their experiences and make sure you’re satisfied with their answers before pulling out a credit card. There’s an open letter to the on the MWO forums to Piranha’s Russ Bullock which pleads for more action and also points to a 64 page thread where community members express their frustration.

In other Transverse news, there’s a new video from Piranha in which they talk about player progression.

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  • Not even close. That’s a non-apology if I ever saw one.

    Note that Niko actually LOCKED the thread after he issued an apology, and proceeded to smack down any subsequent threadnaughts that were intended to be a response to his apology. This is unrepentant behavior.

    The tire fire known as Piranha Games Inc. continues to burn unabated.

  • breakermorant

    Only an extremely naive person would call this an “apology”. It’s your standard bs non-apology where you express regret if anyone feel angry. It’s also a badly disguised publicity stunt.

    The fact that they had these fraudulent goals to begin with should make it pretty obvious that this is a scam and a pathetic attempt to cash in on Star Citizen’s success.

    Swing and a miss, if I ever saw one.

  • taflon don

    The president of the company, Russ, seems convinced that by opening a dialogue with MWO players he can secure a 27 day ‘delay’ in the negative press by fiddling about with some sort of player council.

    What’s disgusting about his is two fold:
    1) One full year ago there was a community groundswell called ‘SaveMWO’ which had as its number one item a player council. Piranha summarily ignored it.
    2) Russ is delusional if he thinks that Piranha’s reputation will improve without immediate decisive action to prove they are actually listening. 3rd person view is a feature that was *voted by the community* to be 90% opposed to, and PGI still put it in. It is an absolute no-brainer for them to start by removing such a hideously unpopular feature, but no, they are not actually going to do anything, they are just going to talk and hope the problem goes away.

    PGI still thinks they can smooth talk their way around actually delivering what they promised people who crowd funded their first game.

    • Paul Younger

      I had noticed this taflon and I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

  • From someones that has worked years in the PR field, and as a Community Manager their self at game’s studios.

    These guys are just asking for this PR train wreck, just look at their company’s history? With Duke Nukem: Forever on their resume they are really started in a pit. Then look at MechWarrior: Online, my personal experience with that? It was great… when I played it 2 years ago. It inches by in development, with a slew of unfulfilled promises.

    The way Niko is addressing the community here is a slap in the face, and I hope everyone realizes that. “it seems possible we over moderated.” No, you guys are just used to ruling your personal forums like a dictatorship, and since you aren’t in charge of reddit you got a nasty wake up call. Honestly, I never heard of developers getting banned off their own reddit, that is actually hilarious.

    Just like when DayZ was a big success and we started seeing a lot of look a likes, here we are seeing the same thing with Star Citizen being copied. From someone who frequents Star Citizen’s forums, I can tell you a lot of the angry people on Transverse are from their. They are upset, and they should be.

    Anyways, I’m stopping there. Great article.

  • NotaRothschild

    Was I right in hearing that they’re using MWO money to fund Transverse? I’ve heard it from a few different places. Piranha Games will not be getting any more money from me!

  • gayfish

    Get the fuck out of here with that shit Piranha aint nobody got time for your scams

  • Dave

    an annoying video to watch….

    So they will apply for grants and tax credits from my govt. They got game rights from EA, and have worked with EA in the past… and they want players to fork over the bill to develop? Sounds like they want both their cake and to get fat.

    I’m glad to watch this game fall flat on it’s face.

  • lazerbeak

    jesus could that be more fake and smug, I wouldn’t trust him to sell me insurance