July 8th, 2016

CSGOLotto cover-up “definitely illegal” says Video Game Attorney

CSGOLotto cover-up “definitely illegal” says Video Game Attorney

In case there was any lingering doubt about the illegality of promoting a Counter-Strike: Global Offensive item gambling site without disclosing ownership, Video Game Attorney Ryan Morrison has cleared that up.

Morrison, of the firm MorrisonLee, has been answering questions on twitter about the activities of Trevor ‘TmarTn’ Martin and Tom ‘ProSyndicate’ Cassell. On the matter of whether their failure to disclose ownership of the site CSGOLotto while promoting it was merely ‘unethical’ or outright illegal, Morrison has no hesitation.

“It’s definitely illegal, and definitely reported to the FTC”, he writes. The FTC is the US Federal Trade Commission, whose guidelines Martin and Cassell have broken in all kinds of different ways.

Interestingly, he also comments on whether the CSGOLotto site constitutes gambling (something which hasn’t entirely been clear throughout this affair, due to the unregulated nature of CS:GO ‘wagers’). In reply to a query about whether this technically falls under that description, Morrison says “This is gambling”.

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    • Paul Younger

      It is gambling, no doubt about that. These guys are super shady and once again highlights the problem of Youtubers not be accountable for their actions.

      • Eratosthenes

        I won’t disclose my channel to avoid the appearance of advertising, but as a very small youtuber who puts days or weeks of effort into every video, never leaves advertising/spammy comments, always purchases full rights to any and all stock assets I use, has never done a brand deal (under or over the table), and has a university degree in animation, the things I see larger channels do just makes me sad and upset. I make videos for the love of making them, and every view I get is an amazing affirmation of my effort. These people who get famous making low-effort videos and on top of that scam their subscribers out of their money just sicken me.

        • Paul Younger

          There are some great Youtubers out there, the transmutation lies in the fact that there are some bloody terrible ones that make the good content harder to find. Keep at it, if you stay true to your vision you will hopefully shine through eventually.

    • Brian

      I wonder if Valve will comment on this. They have known this has been going on for ages it seems, to sit by and take no action isn’t acceptable.

      • https://www.pcinvasion.com Peter Parrish

        The speed this is moving, I think they’ll have to. Probably tomorrow though – I’d assume most are on holiday today.

        • dust&cheese

          this whole scene is actually insane. the speed is very very fast. it went from a video > the internet [doing what it does best] > viral expose video > massive internet news coverage > probably TV news in florida or other states > mass expose. Once valve makes a statement their coffins will be filled and theres no turning back. they probably didn’t realize the internet is a fucking time machine. everything you do is recorded.. especially when you’re famous; people screen shot EVERYTHING. hopefully justice is served. kids growing these premature interests to gaming will fuck their lives up.

      • George Hamman

        I don’t think they will, they wouldn’t want to associate themselves with any form of gambling scandal especially after the lawsuit went to them.

        I think the only way to actually do this is if the GOV recognizes that skins are a substitute of currency and can be use as such and regulate the hell out skins maybe even force valve to shut down their api’s.

        • T-1000

          That’d be really hard. Valve isn’t a publicly traded company (like facebook, twitter, etc) it is privately owned. furthermore, their API is open-source for websites to track player-data, heat maps, and general stats. it just so happens that you can use this data to create gambling sites.

          I’m curious as to how you would word something like that. would you tell Valve in court “You MUST make your software closed-source; like Apple. or….rain fire from above!” (overwatch addict, I know..)

      • Lewis Pardo

        Valve commenting on a community issue? You’re expecting too much.

    • Tyrone /RIP Impala/

      Can’t wait for the majority of these shitty gambling sites to shut down. I even remember how Video Game Attorney in his AMA said that gambling site owners will face huge consequences sooner or later.

    • Modog TheMonkey

      The arragonce of these two pricks is somthing to behold. I hope they get everything thats coming thier way

      • DrearierSpider

        Totalbiscuit said it best:

        “I hope the FTC decides to reign unholy hellfire down on them.”

    • phaed

      Jailtime baby, and hopefully some restitution.

    • Jack Pott

      How long did they think this would go undiscovered? Greed was probably a factor in them risking it for as long as they did.

      They just couldn’t stop themselves with all the money rolling in and a captive audience on their YT channel funnelling in more and more customers.

      • https://sulfen.com/ Sulfen

        They could have easily sold the company to a competitor once they had enough money and would have lost more than they’re about to lose. All it takes is a couple of lawsuits for it to go to a higher court.