Why is there a BATTLETECH gender backlash?

Why is there a BATTLETECH gender backlash?

When I got home from work today I thought I’d run by BATTLETECH’s Steam Store page, a game which I reviewed this morning. I wanted to see what everybody else thought of it. I had a brilliant time playing it so I was surprised to see it only had a mixed rating on Steam. I read through some of the reviews, to see what the people who disliked it were saying. Many of the negative reviews relate to performance or lack thereof, which I didn’t have too many issues with during my playtime, just a few crashes. However, amongst the genuine criticisms were negative reviews for a very strange reason. People are giving this game negative reviews because it includes the option for gender-neutral characters in the character creation screen.

I’m am surprised that in the world we live in today people would hate a game just because of its inclusiveness.  Why is it such an issue to some people that the devs decided to give players the option to create a character who doesn’t identify as either gender? Does it really make a game worse?

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Some of he unwarranted and unsavoury comments

Some people do not identify as either gender.  It shouldn’t be hard to accept that some people don’t identify as either a man or a woman, regardless of their biological sex. They are non-binary, or genderqueer. It should also not be hard to accept that some people, transgender people, are a gender which is different to their biological sex (these are two entirely different concepts). To put it in the most vulgar way, what is between your legs does not define who you are, you choose to define who you are. I am not gender neutral nor transgender, so I do not fully understand how people who are gender neutral or transgender feel about their gender. But I respect them, I accept them for who they are.

Gaming is not the most inclusive and welcoming community in the world. I imagine any woman, LGBTQI+, or any non-white person would agree. It’s too easy to fling insults around like “tranny” and “faggot” without a moment’s thought from behind a keyboard.

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I wonder why…

There’s no doubt the industry needs to deal with these issues, like any other industry, and people need to be called out for poking their noses into other people’s lifestyles or sexuality. Before anybody starts saying they don’t want politics in gaming, this is not a political issue. It has nothing to do with politics. This is a human issue. This is about who people are and how they feel. We should all be more open to and understand how others feel. That would be an ideal world.

At the end of the day, having a gender-neutral option doesn’t change the gameplay in any way so to apply negative review scores for that reason is unwarranted. Harebrained Schemes have at least tried to make the game feel inclusive, and for the people that it’s aimed at, it’s brilliant, and for the people it’s not aimed at, it’s not an issue. In other words, gamers need to start thinking harder about why a game should be marked down and not base their opinions on issues that have nothing to do with the gameplay or gaming experience.

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  • Comments: 245
    • Bigstud69

      There are only two genders and you can’t change them.
      Doesn’t matter what you “identify” with. We shouldn’t change reality just to appease some mentally ill people.

      Gender and Sex are the same thing.

      • Paul Younger

        Mentally ill? Where is the science backing up that sweeping statement?

        • Bigstud69

          Gender dysphoria is a mental illness.

          • Paul Younger

            Actually it’s not. It can turn into a mental illness if untreated. It’s not a mental illness itself. Like anything that is untreated it will turn into an illness. Have a read: https://www.vox.com/cards/transgender-myths-fiction-facts/transgender-people-mentally-ill-myth

            • Bigstud69

              First of all Vox is a far left news organization so their Bias is suspect.

              Second the World Health Orgnazion agrees as do many medical professionals in the field.
              http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15145/

              The fact is gender and sex are the same things, you can’t change it and you’re born with either XX or XY.

              • Paul Younger

                Well you can change it:from one to the other 🙂 The point is, does it make the game a bad game? Nope.

              • https://www.silberkind.de/ Nils Hitze

                Yeah well “The Witherspoon Institute is a conservative think tank” …

              • RuySan

                Actually there is more than either XY or XX. There is XXY, or XXX, and many other other genetic anomalies.

              • angh

                XXY is male, XXX is female, and this is rare genetic disease, similar to down syndrome.

              • Stexe

                Just because it is rare doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And XXY being male and XXX being female isn’t completely true. They are intersex. They might appear to be male or female, but that is relative on a case by case instance.

                Sorry, but your world view is simply wrong. Study this stuff more and expand your horizons.

              • angh

                they are not intersex. One is capable of bearing a child, and other is not.
                I do not have problems with my horizons. Biology is a science, and chromosome combination is very well defined. Put science aside and you’ll get more cases of Caster Semenya.

              • Stexe

                I am completely talking about science. Defining someone as “female” only because they can give birth or not is extremely limited and not accurate.

              • RuySan

                XXY aka Klinefelter syndrome gives origin to very ambiguous sexual features. Many people with that syndrome become transsexuals. And how the f… Has it anything to do with down syndrome???

              • angh

                down syndrome as well is a case of incorrect number of chromosomes.
                As for ambiguous sexual features – that’s right, still, containing Y defines you as a male. Such a person can’t have a working uterus.

              • RuySan

                That’s saying that the flu and HIV are similar because both are transmitted by a virus.

              • Bigstud69

                Yes “anomalies” not the standard.

              • Stexe

                First of all, Vox isn’t “far left” — it is left but it is highly accurate.

                Second, your source is definitely far right, propaganda, and factually inaccurate: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/witherspoon-institute/

                Third, gender and sex are not the same thing. Gender is a cultural construct. And even with sex, which is genetic, there is more than XX or XY. Look up XXY, AIS, and other forms of intersex.

                Sorry to burst your bubble, but your world view is simply filled with errors. Try looking this stuff up from reputable sources instead of propaganda.

              • strangemax

                Sorry, but gender and sex are the same thing. You are born as one or the other. Sure environment may cause confusion, but the abnormal doesn’t define the normal.

              • Stexe

                Wrong. Gender is a social construct, sex is biological. And neither are binary.

                Seriously, study this stuff. Spend some time researching it. I understand it might be strange and frightening to you, but you really need to wake up to reality.

              • Andrew

                There is a male and a female. This is biological fact. You’re just going in circles.

              • Stexe

                No, that isn’t biological fact. Look up intersex. What gender is an XXY or XXX or XXXXX or tons of other chromosomal differences that aren’t purely male or female?

              • http://xerw.deviantart.com/ XERW

                It’s painfully obvious that anything w/ Y chromosome is a male and the lack of it is female – I might agree that gender can be non binary but sex ARE binary.

              • Stexe

                Not true. Look up Swyer Syndrome / XY gonadal dysgenesis. There are a lot of other intersex conditions too.

              • B. Martin

                Dude vox is so far left they are on the planet mercury. I wouldn’t cite them for shit. I guess it’s tough to cite things these days but you’d be better off citing buzzfeed

              • Stexe

                https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/

                They are “left” but not “extreme left” — and you wouldn’t cite them? They are HIGH on factual reporting. They might have some bias, but they are accurate.

                I’d love to see where you get your news from.

              • Andrew

                Vox is to the left of the NY Times – which is a leftist organization. That would make it far left.

              • Stexe

                It is entirely relative. I’d argue that NY Time is very close to center in comparison to the modern world and that our country is skewed. Either way, Vox still has a stellar reputation for factual reporting. I’d love to see where you get your sources that you feel are fair.

              • Andrew

                The only sources that are fair – are non feminist indoctrinated science journals. Which all prove that there is biological sex.

              • Stexe

                lol? Non-feminist indoctrinated science journals? What kind of bullshit answer is that? Give me some legit sources. Because if you actually study this stuff you’d see that biological sex isn’t binary. There are so many chromosomal differences that result in intersex conditions.

              • Bigstud69

                Just because that website says something doesn’t make it true. You have to look at the reporting and the funding.

              • Stexe

                Uh, it is true because it has been fact checked by multiple other sources. I’m still waiting to see what you use for news.

              • Bigstud69

                The facts show time and time again that gender identity disorder is …. a mental disorder.

              • Bigstud69

                First yes it is, it was started by the daily kos founder and other prominent liberals. Gender is based on Sex and is interchangeable in our culture. Given how little you understand about the mental illness of gender dysphoria I suggest you stop enabling it.

              • Stexe

                lol? No, it isn’t.

                If sex and gender were the same then everyone on the top would be female and everyone on the bottom would be male, since that is what they were born as.

                https://i.imgur.com/Km2S1hv.png

              • Bigstud69

                Just because they mutilate their genitals and put on a wig doesn’t change their genetics. You’re just enabling that delusion and mental illness.

              • Stexe

                I never said it does change their genetics? Where did I say that? It is their body — they can do what they want with it. Or do you body shame people too? What they do with their body is none of your concern. It isn’t enabling them if it ultimately helps them — which it does in more instances than not. Unless you have some other proven solution because modern science does not offer any real alternatives.

                And again, still waiting to see your citations for your claims.

              • Bigstud69

                They can mutilate their bodies however they want, they just shouldn’t expect me to enable their mental illness and delusion. Just because you have your penis cut off doesn’t make you a woman no matter how much you think it does.

              • Stexe

                If they ask you to use female pronouns for them then you should. It is about being respectful. You’re not enabling mental illness or delusion. Gender is largely a social construct. You going against that just makes you an asshole. If someone asks you to call them by a certain name do you go “NO I WANT TO SEE YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THAT’S THE ONLY NAME I WILL CALL YOU BY BECAUSE I DON’T WANT TO ENABLE YOU”? No, at least I hope you don’t.

              • Vele

                But…why do you care? Why should that impact anyone’s enjoyment of the game? The option doesn’t affect anyone who doesn’t want to use it, so why should that be a mark against the quality of the game?

              • samplerico

                Because they are reactionary, the problem is with people ofended, not with the sexuality of someone who doesn’t hurt anybody. People who can’t accept others condition is the f** problem here. Homofobia is just like racism, or religious fanatism. Its a problem with peoples mentaility more than with skin color, religion or sexual tendency.

              • Dan Sword

                “But…why do you care?”

                Many people are tired of the relentless stream of marxist debauchery & obvious brain-washing constantly appearing in front of their unwilling faces. It’s offensive & disgusting. But worst of all, we’re sick of it. Enough already.

              • Chris T. Calian

                Firstly people should stop mixing up intersex with people who think gender is something you choose. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Nothing.

                Intersex is rather rare. If we are to be inclusive to every single disease on this planet we need to include characters with ectrodactyly or make main protagonists with downs syndrome all over the place. That is pure idiocy, but it’s where the leftmost left wants to go.

                Media markets to the common denominators and most people don’t have chromosomal abnormalities.

                Now regarding the whole gender is a choice group, it’s the hot sausage among a minority of far-left snowflakes. It’s silly prepubescent nonsense and embracing it is the last thing anyone should do.

                Thus, quite naturally, us normal people get upset. Suddenly its accepted as a fact of life throughout a society so corrupted by social media and tweet news that it wouldn’t know it’s own backside even if you shoved its head in for a closer look.

              • RuySan

                It would be actually cool to have a game with a main character with Downs Syndrome.

              • Bigstud69

                Because its harms society to enable this kind of delusion.

              • samplerico

                it harms your believe system, thats all…

              • Bigstud69

                My belief in science that there are only 2 genders and you can’t change it.

              • Bigstud69

                because it enable a mental disorder.

              • CarpeMofo

                This is *NOT* the world health organization. This is the Witherspoon Institute who are a conservative funded think tank that has no respect in the scientific community.

              • XKFry

                The World Health Organization supports transgender people:

                http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/transgender/en/

                So does the American Medical Association:

                https://wire.ama-assn.org/ama-news/ama-takes-several-actions-supporting-transgender-patients

          • Raptor Jesus

            And treatable with medication. Two months on the right drugs and all this ‘I’m in the wrong body’ crap just goes away.

            • Stexe

              What exactly is “the right drugs” because it definitely isn’t that easy.

              • Adept

                Jesus wept. The reactionaries in this thread are so cringe-worthy in their ignorant bigotry.

          • CarpeMofo

            You’re right, it is. But gender dysphoria is just the name of the depression and stuff that can come from being trans. Being trans though? No, that isn’t a mental illness. It’s literally the brain of one gender in the body of another. Biologically that’s what it is. Being angry at someone for being trans is no different than being angry at someone because they were born missing limbs.

      • samplerico

        Then i guess you don’t deserve nuclear energy, refined petroleum, plastic derivatives and so many chemical physical, and nuclear advancements humanity has achieved. Humanity has changed nature in such ways you are not able to decide wether or not something is natural or not. You should stfu and let people be free. Open your tiny mind moron.

        • Adept

          word

        • Bigstud69

          thats the dumbest comparison i’ve ever heard. Science disagrees with the trans ideology of being able to change “gender”.

          • samplerico

            What your smoking dude? trans ideology??? wtf is that? ther is no trans ideology, its no an ideology its just a personal sexual tendency. Science disagrees? what do you mean by science disagrees? science cannot agree or disagree, science is just a human knowledge ramification based on empiric study of diverse phenomenons. Science cannot disagree with something that exists.Science can study it, but not agree or disagree…

            • Bigstud69

              It is an ideology, it’s a mental illness and a delusion. Science agrees that there are only 2 genders and that those genders are genetic.

              • samplerico

                Now its not only an ideology its a mental illness and a delusion, great your improving your theory every minute. Science agrees that there only 2 genders and that those genders are genetic. And? what prooves that? prooves absolutely nothing, im gonna stop talking to you. You are clearly a lost cause. Take care.

              • Bigstud69

                Yes now you’re getting it. Thinking you can change your gender is a mental illness and then having people enable said illness is an ideology.

              • samplerico

                Look at the mirror to see mental illness bro. Take care!

      • Adept

        Obvious troll is obvious. Look at the chosen nickname as well. I’d just delete this idotic, trolling comment Paul.

        • Bigstud69

          If you can’t argue your point then don’t post at all.

    • Bigstud69

      LGBTQI+ what the hell does that even mean?

    • Raptor Jesus

      Well, let’s see what science fiction entertainments are pushing blatant anti-male, feminist, ‘diversity’ propaganda:

      Ghostbusters
      The Road Warrior
      Star Wars (oh my GOD)
      Star Trek Discovery (again, oh my GOD)
      The Expanse
      Dark Matter
      Doctor Who
      Westworld (did ya notice EVERY SINGLE HEROIC PERSON is a minority or a woman or both and every single white male is evil, weak, incompetent, or all three?)
      Do I even have to mention ‘The Handmaidens tale’?

      It’s NOT ONE GAME. It’s damn near everything. I saw this game and the characters were again, OVERWHELMINGLY MINORITIES AND WOMEN. In a giant robot fighting game? This is just asinine.
      So yeah, they can take their ‘he, she, they’ and choke on it. It’s called the LAST STRAW. I’m calling it now… white men are just going to walk away from this crap. And they should.

      • Paul Younger

        The question is… Does it really matter in the big scheme of things?. No, not really.

        • Raptor Jesus

          I enjoyed Westworld, it’s very well made. But it’s not good to be unaware of the agenda behind things.

          • Dan Sword

            And there certainly *is* an obvious agenda.

          • Adept

            Equality and social justice. Such a terrible agenda 😀

            • Bigstud69

              Given who’s pushing the nonsense yes it is.

              • samplerico

                Too many conspiration theory youtube videos maybe? my god, you are all too deep into the rabbit hole to see any sort of light… good luck.

              • Bigstud69

                Not really a conspiracy. Its a bunch of envious leftists.

              • samplerico

                so whos pusing the nonsense? reptilians marxists? stalin is alive? ovnis with leftist agenda? bye bye redneck.

              • Bigstud69

                Oh no the snowflake got triggered again. You might learn something if you engaged your brain once in a while.

              • Dov

                Small dud 39 is so threatened he decided to pull out more conspiracy theorists. The only people offended by one small option in a game are the bigots who feel threatened by strong females.

              • B. Martin

                Lara croft is a strong female, 2b from nier is a strong female – the princess in this game is a mary sue. If she is a she?

            • hdrech

              So being anti-white and anti-male is equality and social justice now?

              • Chris Skuller

                Since when is diversity and equality anti-white and anti-male?

      • Stexe

        “Anti-male”? lol. None of those push any type of anti-male propaganda. Do you understand that actual equal representation means that sometimes white cis males are shown to be villains? How many shows have all the white cis males as the heroes and the minorities are the villains in comparison?

        You’re not looking at things fairly, you’re looking at things from the point of view where any type of equalization is oppression even when white cis males have been on top for thousands of years.

      • Wade Steel

        Speaking as a white male, you won’t be missed. Don’t let the door hit your overly-sensitive, snowflake ass on the way out.

        • Adept

          The word you’re looking for is “broflake” 😉

          • Bigstud69

            says the cuck.

        • Raptor Jesus

          You’re not really bright enough to understand… that THEY HATE YOU. Or you’re too much of a coward to take the red pill.

          • Stexe

            rofl. Reference to “red pill” says it all. You are so confused on reality. Equality scares you because you’ve been in such a privileged position your whole life. Well, wake up to reality.

            • Raptor Jesus

              You say ‘equality’ I say ‘hatred and propaganda’. When the writers of the ‘Rogue One’ movie flat out say ‘The empire is white men and the rebellion is women and minorities’ that says it all. Our culture is dead and people like you don’t even know it. Wake up to reality yourself.

              • Stexe

                “Hatred and propaganda”? Lol. That is what you’re prescribing. “Our culture is dead” … which culture is that? You mean the culture where white cis males have major control over nearly ever facet of life? Then yes, that is dying and for good reason. We should be striving for equality and inclusion. The current status quo that has been maintained for thousands of years is simply wrong. I can tell you’ve never really faced true discrimination or oppression. Break out from your bubble and explore the world. See what it is really like. You might learn something.

              • Wade Steel

                Show me on this doll where the bad SJWs touched you?

              • Raptor Jesus

                They shit all over Han Solo and Luke Skywalker, two characters that meant a lot to me (and millions of other science fiction fans).

              • XKFry

                Han was awesome in The Force Awakens. Luke was even more awesome in The Last Jedi.

          • Dan Sword

            +Raptor Jesus
            You’re never gonna convice that suicidal white knight. He’s a beta-bitch soy-boy. His testicles are ancient history.

          • XKFry

            The term “red pill” was coined by a couple of trans women.

          • Dov

            LOL. You hate yourself for being too stupid.

        • Bigstud69

          I know when you get called snowflake it bothers because people like you are trying to us it as your own.

        • asdfdf

          good virtue signaling

      • samplerico

        Now post the millions other movies who pushes super heroic male archetype, you have homework buddy…

        • Raptor Jesus

          There are NO MOVIES, NONE, where all the men are good and strong and all the women are evil or stupid and incompetent.

          NONE. Jesus, you really should try thinking for yourself sometime.

          • samplerico

            Maybe because its not a stereotype? Maybe the stereotype for womens is another one. Get your head off your ass and think two minutes. Think why white male are pictured as evil, and why women are pictured as witches, neurotic, sexy bitches. And why black people is pictured as drug dealers and gang members… You will not stereotype a white male as a neurotic sexy bitch, because its not his fucking stereoitype, you fuckign idiot. Your only seeing white male stereotype bad because you are a fuckign white male with your head in your ass and you can’t see further. Everyone loses in this game, blaming womens or black people because they suddenly have more protagonistic roles in movies is beyond moronic. Look at 90% of 60′ to 90′ movies, all fucking white male protagonists in those.

            Now, thinsg are changing in the culture. Fucking aleluyah! omg, get down your white horse. The world is bigger than your ass, sensitive pussy.

            • Dan Sword

              +samplerico
              LMFAO the only time black people are portrayed as drug dealers or gang members is on the show Cops. Literally every single home security system commercial features white male robbers (usually robbing minorities).

          • Dan Sword

            +Raptor Jesus
            Listen to all the drones, parroting their marxist brainwashing while pretending it’s original thought.

            • samplerico

              Marxism is an economic doctrine you moron, marxism has nothing to do with social equality or cultural representation. Its funny you speaks about brainwashing… so funny dude.

          • Raptor Jesus

            Name one.

      • B. Martin

        Ive been thinking the same thing for years now. It’s so tiring. “Diversity” on it’s face isn’t a bad thing, having a character in a game, movie or tv show someone identifies with I think is good. But in 2018 it doesn’t mean true diversity, it simply means anti-white, or no white people. More and more I notice white males in everything from commercials to paper ads, are stupid, incompetent, weak looking, the villains. If it’s a female she’s paired with a dark skinned black dude. People can be openly – racist – against whites and it’s treated as gold.

        I also notice more and more people are waking up to this. Not buying or seeing movies with this type of message. Look at mass effect and wolfenstein, both major flops with major SJW themes. The Last Jedi lost money compared to the previous movies. Every story I see about it is people openly hating or crapping on star wars now. Never thought I’d see that. Look at Far Cry 5, a game which wears it’s pro america no SJW themes on it’s chest, it has real diversity – people of all colors and creeds that someone can identify with, but isn’t “anti white” and it was the highest selling game in UBIsofts history. People are voting with their wallets and realizing the douchebags at kotaku and polygon don’t play and buy games.

        In battletech This was relatively harmless with the “they” gender at the beginning, but the characters were so ugly I couldn’t bare it, and refunded it with 30 minutes of playtime. I just won’t patronize companies that inject this SJW crap into their games. Maybe that means I won’t have many games to play, but so be it.

        • samplerico

          Maybe we deserve it? i mean, nobody can go free after 1500 years of world domination, 100 years of african and american natives slavery and extermination, and 200 years of global culture and economy domination. Your little white ass is ofended now because hes comic book heroe is a little more darker or a little more feminist? man your such a sensitive pussy bitch. This is nothing comparable to XIX century african slavery, or XX century american absolute world domination throught war and dictatorship around the world. You should be thankfull your white ass still has the privileges you have. Things change, nothing is inmutable, better get prepared white boy.

          • B. Martin

            dude africans sold africans to the british to sell. Almost every color on the planet bought, sold and used slaves.

            and you can piss and moan and threaten all you want. you’re too stupid to do anything else but live in ghettos and burn down your own neighborhoods over a tweet. While white democratss throw you bones by adding #metoo hashtags to everything, you still live in poverty and squalor.

            Good luck.

            • Wade Steel

              A truly enlightened post. A real hallmark of intellectual development.

              • B. Martin

                thanks bro, on my birthday no less

              • Dan Sword

                +Wade Steel
                Because “enlightenment” = thinking whatever the establishment tells you to think. Apparently.

            • samplerico

              I’m white asshole, the only difference is that i don’t have my head in my ass. I have a bit of culture and i can see that 200 years of total domination by western countrys doesn’t come with its downs. I’m not gonna promote any war over cultral or racial or religious motivations, but it makes fucking sense to have a small cultural shift in 2018 after 100 years of pure white male domination. Can’t you fuckign understand this? can’t you understand you are chating from your confortable house because half world is in poverty and pain? And you think the need to hear your pussy thoughts about how horrible is to you to see white guys pictured as evil in movies? What a fucking tiny world you live on. What a bunch of douchebags. It’s thanks to ignorant people like you this world is such a trash can. Wake up your hatred mind.

              • B. Martin

                dude – you’re talking about some random poor people in 3rd world countries. Why are you blaming ME for some poor african who’s leaders are so corrupt and destructive that they keep their OWN PEOPLE enslaved and in poverty. Why are billionaires like Jayz and Al Sharpton lecturing me about my “white male privilege”?

                You’re rambling on about problems thousands of miles away, and im talking about being treated with respect as a white man in tvs and movies in america. The fact is without white people you wouldn’t even be typing on this computer, getting calls on your iphone, living in an ACed apt, playing games on steam with your ps4 controller. Im not whining about a color shift, im whining about the complete and utter hatred of white people for no other reason than we conquered everything hundreds of years ago. If we didn’t your ass would be speaking cherokee living in a mud hutt.

                come on man.

              • samplerico

                Well Sony and Nintendo are Japanese, algebra comes from arabic world, Russians were the first to send a man and a women into space, Chinese invented the powder, Ming dynasty in China and Edo period in Japan had 300 years of peace and stability until the XIXth Century American war vessels came with their comercial requirements. Messopotamian and Egyptian civilizations made big steps forwards in agriculture and architecture. And if it wasn’t for the XIX and XX century natural resources expoliation of western countrys to 3rd wolrd ones, your white ass would be a much less confortable right now. You maybe wouldn’t even born. You can pay your electricity bill and have your smartphone because some poor guy in Iraq got killed, or some poor kid in Central Africa is getting your Apple/Sony/Samsung cobalt.

                Again, get your head off your ass, grow a dick and think about the fact that your not alone in the world, your not the smartest, you just have been lucky enough to be born in a powerfull western country in XXI century. And you owe all your stability, and confort to other human beings. America loves globalization right? that means globalization, it means you are related to an African kid or an killed iraqui. Mentality like yours is what makes white males look like morons in movies ;D. We own the world throught war and misery and we don’t want to look evil in movies… fucking egocentric idiots.

              • B. Martin

                im sorry that you’re poor

              • Dan Sword

                +samplerico
                So which college did you learn all that from? Just curious.

              • samplerico

                Pick any history book… They are at your closest library ;).

              • Dan Sword

                Name one.

              • samplerico
          • Raptor Jesus

            Ah, hatred. Pure, and unadulterated. There it is.

            • samplerico

              I am white. Maybe self hatred then? This makes even more sense. So you should see white male as absolutely free of any sin right? So simply forget 200-300 years of colonization and exploitation? or all the American wars and promoted dictatorships of the XX Century? or the actual state of the world with privileged western countrys over 3/4 of the rest of the world? We forget natural resources expoliation? we forget slavery? We should forget everything white male does and have done and just portray them as perfectly fine people? that its what you are saying? i don’t understand your point of view. You have literally hundreds of movies and TVseries every fucking year since the cinema invention where white male is portrayed as right, inteligent, good, heroic, protagonistic etc… Are you frogeting big movies for George Clooney, Harrison Ford, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Leonardo diCaprio, they have hundreds of movies and most of them they are prtagonistic good white males… whats your fucking problem? you want more? waht are you asking for?

              • Raptor Jesus

                Jesus you’re an idiot.

              • samplerico

                I know when you insult me, you totally lost… Thank you for your atention, you proved to be a moron with your ehad in your ass, and no comprehention of anythign else than you, you and your little white world. God save us from people like you.

              • Raptor Jesus

                No, it’s that anyone who could ramble on that absolute idiocy you’re spewing is just too stupid to bother arguing with. You head is full of absolute nonsense.

              • samplerico

                Well, if your arguments are “idiocy” “stupid” and “absolute nonsense”. Your still losing the discusion here. Good luck changing someones mind with those weak, poor weak arguments. It’s been a pleasure. Or not…

              • Dan Sword

                Idiocy is idiocy, just as nonsense is nonsense.

              • samplerico

                ajam, and a toolbox is a toolbox. Good, we are making progress with you. Have you anything more interesting to say? Or all your comments are dull one liner sentences?

              • Bigstud69

                You’re not discussing anything, you’re whining.

              • Dov

                Jesus will throw you into Hell. Typical alt Right nutjob citing religion as defence.

              • Bigstud69

                “colonization” News flash that was a GOOD thing. It gave savages and people with less advanced cultures a better way of life.

            • Bigstud69

              I would say he suffer more from race envy.

          • Bigstud69

            White people gave those people civilization.

        • Raptor Jesus

          Stop making so much sense, you’re making all the others look bad.

        • Dan Sword

          “Diversity” is code for anti-white.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw

        • Dov

          If you think white males are stupid then you have been watching the dumbest reality TV shows or the mirror. Most procedural detective or medical dramas star white male protagonists. You need to stop with the fake news.

          • B. Martin

            Just sort of take note nowadays, in commercials, on newer tv shows that have new cast. For instance, the Charmed reboot is being done with all brown women, fine on the surface I guess, but look at the overall trend. Notice the next commercial you watch, how stupid the man of the house is. He’s always goofy or the woman always solves the problem. The man is never the protector or provider anymore.

      • Chris Terry

        Wait… who exactly is Heroic in Westworld? There seems to be a lot of grey area there. And I wouldn’t consider Anthony Hopkins to be a villain, certainly. The “agenda” is to make money. And “diversity” is selling big, big time…. and for fuck sakes, Star Trek has ALWAYS been about pushing gender and racial boundaries… and so has Doctor Who.

        And what’s with your criticism of Sci-Fi shows… they’ve like…. always been diverse. Ever seen Sliders?? Farscape?? Firefly?? etc. In Dark Matter, probably the best character is Titch (the white dude)… but that show went so far off the rails with it’s storyline, that I just stopped watching it.

        Now, I want to check out The Expanse… just because of your criticism of it, lol.
        But what sci-fi shows involving space do you actually like? Or are you fine with diversity only if a white guy is the main character?

        • Raptor Jesus

          ‘I wouldn’t consider Anthony Hopkins to be a villain’? Are you INSANE? The man is a COLD-BLOODED MURDERER. Jesus. Did you even watch the show?

          The Expanse is a very good show but it really sticks out that EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN A COMMAND POSITION is a minority woman. Except for the Captain of the Cant, a fat, cowardly, immoral, weakling who has a mental breakdown and is relieved of command. Again – this is pretty in your face stuff. It’s not subtle. In the future… women run everything.

          I think the new ‘Lost in Space’ on Netflix is really good. The characters are well written, and the relationships develop well. And it’s exciting. I don’t care if Judy is adopted (by John), she’s a well written character and the actress does a very good job (they all do). Doctor Smith a woman? Don’t care. John Robinson is no longer the brilliant scientist (of course that’s the wife now) but he is given LOTS of real ‘hero’ moments and is a great all round character.

          • B. Martin

            I disagree on the expanse a little. Yeah it pushes the diversity thing a smidge, but all the characters are well written and i never noticed in the first 2 seasons any kind of crazy political agenda. We’ll see S3

            • Raptor Jesus

              It’s a really good show, but yeah…. the difference between the Captain of the Cant and ALL the female commanders was astonishingly striking.

              Some people are hating on the new ‘Lost in Space’ cause it has strong female characters. I like strong female characters, but not if ALL the male characters are weak. And that’s certainly not true on ‘Lost in Space’, John Robinson is pretty awesome. And I really like how well they developed the Don West character.

          • Chris Terry

            A Cold Blooded Murderer… I suppose, but his goal is to liberate and give conscious to the hosts, and he’s willing to die to do so. Obviously, he’s no saint, but the corporate over-bosses seem to be the true villains of the show. And not to mention the guests who come to the park to live out their dark fantasies. And Ed Harris’s character… villainous as he may be, actually want the hosts to fight back so that there is actually consequences for his actions. So, I think he’s actually better than some of the guests.

          • Dov

            Poor Raptor thought he watched the show but he didnt even understand the plot.

            • Raptor Jesus

              What part of he MURDERS PEOPLE did you not understand?

      • unicurse

        Hear hear

      • myrddin

        Wow, all of those examples. It must be that there are no more shows, games or movies that feature white male protagonists!

        Also, just in case you are really going to walk away: Bye.

      • Dan Sword

        I could easily quadruple the size of that list.

      • Greg

        “….OVERWHELMINGLY MINORITIES AND WOMEN. In a giant robot fighting game?”
        Why would you need a dick to pilot or be associated with a giant robot, Battletech has been historically filled with female pilots, officers, and matriarchs. Furthermore, I don’t know why you expected a preponderance of white people in the Periphery, it’s not Steiner territory.

      • XKFry

        Why are women and minorities incompatible with a giant robot fighting game?

      • Waswat

        You’re pathetic to be this triggered by one word in a game that’s actually good.

        • Raptor Jesus

          What part of ‘it’s not one game’ do you not understand? Learn to read sometime.

          • Waswat

            What part of ‘in this game it’s one word’ do you not understand? That one fucking option makes you want to whine all over the internet about battletech. Fuck off pal. You and likeminded people like you who are all into SJW bashing are the ones who are absolutely insanely over the top when it comes to this. Video after video, post after post of complaining about the wording or how it’s all going to hell. Grow up and learn to relativize some time.

            https://youtu.be/xb3oh3dhnoM?t=62

            • Raptor Jesus

              And here we say what you are …. at the core… the real you. And it’s PURE HATRED.

              • Waswat

                Lol. Nice deflection. You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about.

      • temp

        honestly
        i thought battletech/mechwarrior would be immune to this shit and i could just keep playing my stuff
        but the demographics have changed and even this stuff needs to be ruined it seems.

      • Dov

        Yeah and you people claim to not be bigots, and are all for freedom of speech. Everyone else should not express their opinion in a game they made, but you are welcome to say they should not. These Right wingers are chock full of the bad stuff.

    • Richard N

      Eh, honestly I’m not as shocked by this as I should be. And that’s pretty sad.

      Here’s hoping the folks who have a big problem with this say whatever they want and move on. Leaving the people who do the enjoy the game to enjoy it in peace.

    • logat890

      kowtowing to mental patients was not in the budget.

    • CB

      I don’t understand how you can be surprised people are giving a game negative ratings for “gender” inclusiveness when people regularly give negative reviews to media that doesn’t have enough representation of the type they desire. King Come got negative coverage because there weren’t enough Sub-Saharan African characters in a game that took place in Medieval Bohemia. You’re surprised that there are people on the other side of the SJW coin that get upset when they feel diversity is unnecessarily shoehorned in?

      • Stexe

        You’re comparing two completely different things. I knew there would be a backlash the second I saw it, but I’m glad they included gender neutral options. Kingdom Come (not King Come) has major issues due to lack of representation. That isn’t comparable to “over representation” or whatever you’re claiming.

        • strangemax

          I think you just made CB’s point.

          • CB

            He did. It is pretty funny.

          • Dan Sword

            Fucking insane. He thinks trannies should be in a game about medeival knights. I can see it now: Start game as tranny character; get burned at the stake; game over.

        • B. Martin

          bro i dont think you could identify as “they” in medieval times. come on man. transgenders rep like .003% of the pop. They probably represent like .001% of the gaming population, yet game companies want to shove it down the other 99% of people’s throats. I admit the option was pretty harmless in battletech, but it’s the principle

          • Stexe

            Oh, so we’re comparing modern society to medieval times? And no, it is 3%+ of the population that identifies as some form of transgender.

            It isn’t “shoving it down people’s throats” it is about being inclusive. What is wrong with that? How does that affect you? It doesn’t. Grow up.

            • Dan Sword

              3% my ass.

              Btw, I saw no attack-helicopter pronoun. And since I identify as an attack-helicopter and everyone should be “included”, when can I expect your letter to this developer demanding “equal representation” (which would mean 25% male, 25% female, 25% “they”, and 25% attack-helicopter; apparently).

              • Stexe

                The “I identify as an attack-helicopter” meme shows how you do not understand at all. People are not saying they identify with random objects — if they are then they have an actual serious mental illness. They are simply identifying as a different gender, somewhere between the genders, or not a standard gender. It has to do with cultural norms, stereotypes, and so on.

                Equal representation doesn’t mean exact percentages of each. It means that they should try to include diversity to strengthen the game. I seriously suggest you actually read into this stuff. There are dozens of websites that openly talk about it and will explain it to you if you’re willing to learn. But based on your comment I assume you just read something that puts you even deeper into a bubble.

                It is 0.3% that identifies as transgender, minimum. Most recent studies say it has grown to 0.6%. 3.8% identify as LGBTQ. I assume it is actually much higher as people “come out of the closet” when society, such as people like you, doesn’t bash on them as much and accepts them.

      • Chris T. Calian

        At least they act surprised, that gives them cred points with the lefty Twitter folks. If you want to stay afloat in this climate you can’t be critical about these things. Else you risk being labelled something vile and thrown off the ship.

        • Dan Sword

          Whatever you say, Chris. Fact is, most people are disgusted by this shit. They just aren’t super visible because they aren’t born attention-whores, like the SJW crowd. Most people are busy working an actual productive job.

    • logat890

      Let’s stick to gaming PCINVASION. 🙂

      • Paul Younger

        This is about gaming. It’s pointing out how reviews and scores become unbalanced for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual quality of a game. This is a prime example of why the system is broken on Steam but it actually has an impact on how many copies get sold which ultimately impacts the developer.

        • logat890

          sure buddy. 🙂

    • AzureKit88

      Six one-sentence reviews mentioning “they” out of however many thousands of reviews constitutes a “backlash” these days? Talk about mountains out of molehills…

    • strangemax

      Thanks for pointing this out. I’ll keep clear of this one. I for one am tired of the social justice war.

      • Wade Steel

        Awww poor baby 🙁 Did the big, bad SJWs hurt your fee-fees?

        • Dan Sword

          Actually it is YOUR constant need to have your fee-fees publicly acknowledged which is annoying & disgusting most other people.

      • Jeff

        Yes, because a single word choice during character creation is very threatening. If you didn’t already know about Battletech I doubt you were going to get it one way or the other, so you saying you’ll keep clear of it likely doesn’t mean much.

        • Bigstud69

          Its normalizing a mental illness.

      • Dov

        Social Injustice Whiner here boys.

    • fs

      What is the purpose of “getting political” in f**** videogame? SJW piece of…. ****

    • Grim

      Perhaps it’s not the options that’s offending the reviewers but how they came about. If these gender options had been added due to actual demand from gamers then there wouldn’t be a problem. But we all know how and why these new options were added and some might find it a bit unfair.

      Yes, it’s good to be inclusive but not when it involves shaming one huge portion of the demographic into accepting them. Gamers have been given the freedom to choose whatever gender or race their avatar display ever since video gaming tech is able to provide such option especially in RPGs. Had these options added years ago no one would give a fuss but gender has become such a politically charged topic that it leaves a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth.

      The increase of female and gender-neutral representation in recent games is achieved by shaming males gamers and threatening the livelihood of game studios. That’s not really a good way or reason to get people to accept and celebrate their inclusion.

      • Dov

        Shaming male gamers…what a leap. Perhaps you manchilds have such fragile egos that an option in a game can shame and threaten you. Grow up

        • Grim

          What leap? There really is a movement to shame anything male in almost every fields. Where have you been for the past several years? They even tried to make the Force, James Bond and Dr, Who female(and they don’t think highly of the male versions).

          I’m sorry but it’s a simple matter of the activists having poisoned the well for everyone. Five years ago no one cared what gender or race button a game have. Most of my RPG characters were female. Now, one have no other choice but think that a game dev have buckled to appease the activists in order to have a proper sale of their game.

    • Mithan

      The reason people are upset with this is because it is a fake narrative being pushed by people suffering from a mental disorder, who want to make us all suffer from this same issue in an effort to “normalize it” to gain acceptance. The fact you do not understand this because your entire world view is derived around “feelings”, does not make everybody else, especially the 150 billion who came before you, wrong. And before you make the argument that 150 billion people before you also believed the world was flat and the sun was a god, let me remind you that we are discussing Human Nature here and the observations made 3000 years ago are just as relevant today as they were back then. On the science front, we know their are male and female and a few people in between with an issue. Those people need support, to be loved and treated normally, we don’t need to take the rest of the population and change them to fit the few, which is what the problem is, especially when it is pushed on us by governments and we are even threatened with our children being taken away because we do not agree with this idiocy.

      BattleTech waded into this nonsense to show support for it. They didn’t need to do this and should not have done this.

      • Stexe

        Mental disorder? So people who are legitimately intersex with XXY / XXX or other chromosomal things are having a mental disorder? “Agree with this idiocy”? Do you mean agree with being accepting of what people want for themselves? You’re talking pure oppression more than anything the “government” is doing.

        • Mithan

          Oppression ? Are you stupid or just purposefully misrepresenting what I stated, which included absolutely NO oppression. If you believe the government taking kids away from a family who has a 7 year old going through a tough time is somehow not oppression or bad, you are suffering from a mental disorder yourself.

          If you actually took the time to read what I said and process it properly, you would know that I said that people with a legitimate issue (chromosomal or mental), should be accepted and treated with love and respect, not cast aside, oppressed or whatever you seem to want to read into it.

          Humans should be brought up to believe that their are differences between sex (men are stronger physically for example, women have babies, men are more aggressive in temperament and sexuality, etc). This is why transgender men shouldn’t be competing against women for example in something like kick boxing or wrestling, feelings be damned but if you are so for this equality, then maybe we should stop having womens sports and just have sports, with women and men competing in hockey, basketball, baseball, etc, together. Oh wait, we don’t. Why? Their are differences.

          • Stexe

            “Government taking kids away from a family” … source / citation needed.

            I’ve read what you said and processed it. You’re completely off basis. You’re not actually in touch with the modern world.

            “Humans should be brought up to believe that their [sic] are differences between sex.” Wrong. That type of mentality is toxic and a form of oppression by pushing outdated stereotypes. Yes, males are statistically stronger due to genetic differences, but that doesn’t mean that is something you should push on people as a standard. The idea that if you’re not a strong male then you’re somehow lesser is extremely problematic. Transgender sports competitions are an entirely different thing than anything people are talking about here, but nice straw man argument. Might want to check out your logical fallacies before continuing an argument.

            • Mithan

              See, you are wrong again.

              First, Google Canadian government policy for this issue. It is a new law passed recently.

              Second, “being out dated” is your own view point, not the one held by the majority of the planet. I am perfectly in touch with the modern world, most of which views your point of view as ridiculous. The vast majority of people on the planet think that men are men and women are women based on their chromosome differences set at conception and shortly after.

              Third, again you are projecting things I never said. Men are stronger physically, you can’t deny this, and it is pushed on people because it is the truth. This is why you have a division between sports for example, and always will. You will of course try to say this is false but that just shows how out of touch with the modern world you are.

              Also, I never commented on mental strength, you did. I never commented on the physical strength “projection” that is stereotypical of men either.

              Transgender in sports is not a straw man argument. You don’t like the argument because it shows how stupid your own view point is.

              The point is, you are wrong. You believe their is no difference between men and women, which is scientifically wrong. You project things into the argument that were not stated.

              People who don’t want to identify as male or female are fine, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the planet has to do it as well, or that it has to be pushed on them to accept it or live by it.

              And no that doesn’t mean you should be oppressed either,which is another projection you made

              • Stexe

                How about you provide me specific citations for your claims. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

                “Not the one held by the majority of the planet” — if majority is how you determine the “correct” viewpoint then you have no idea what you’re talking about. Slavery was globally acceptable until people stood up against it. “I am perfectly in touch with the modern world, most of which views your point of view as ridiculous.” No, you’re not. Seriously, visit modern developed countries like any of the Nordic model countries, most of Europe, and any major city in the US. Again, just because a “vast majority” of people think one way doesn’t make it right. People used to think the world was flat and the sun revolved around us — or do you still think that?

                “And it [men being stronger physically] is pushed on people because it is the truth.” No, the average does not make up the truth. Just because the average male is stronger, that doesn’t mean all men are stronger or that it is a requirement to be “more of a man.” Look up toxic masculinity.

                “Transgender in sports is not a straw man argument.” Wrong. It is a straw man argument because no one is pushing that view point. You’re bringing something up that isn’t being discussed.

                I never said there is no difference between males and females. Not once. But nice try putting words in my mouth. I’m not making any “projections” or whatever you claim. I’m citing fact. Gender is a social construct. That is fact. There is more than just male and female in regards to both gender and sex. Study this stuff. There’s so much information out there if you’re willing to learn.

              • Mithan

                Ah yes, more stupidity.
                -A penis = male.
                -Vagina = female.
                Sorry you have a problem with this.

                The average is the truth and is correct. Toxic Masculinity is something pushed by you and debunked all over the place by many. You might as well push your flat earth theory on me.

                No, you are not citing facts. Gender is not a social construct, it is a real difference based on male and female physiological and psychological differences. You ignore the evidence that exists and have created your own in its place to assert your insane lifestyle and beliefs.

                At the end of the day, you are no different than a religious person using “God said this” as his justification.

              • Stexe

                lol… Seriously, research intersex. There are people who have a vagina but also have internal testes. Or people who have both a penis and a vagina in different stages.

                I’d gladly cite all my things. Just look up any of the citations at the bottom of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex Here’s a good one too talking about the different conditions they’ve encountered: http://agentsofishq.com/intersex/

                Toxic masculinity isn’t “debunked all over the place by many” — it is a real thing. Why do you think 95%+ of all mass shootings are committed by men? Why the mass majority of those were due to people who had frustrations over women? https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a18207600/mass-shootings-male-entitlement-toxic-masculinity/

                Gender is largely a social construct. It is not ENTIRELY one, but it is by more heavily related to social cultural norms than simply genetics. Basing things on “physiological differences” is basing things on social constructs. https://i.imgur.com/Km2S1hv.png For example, all the people on top are female to male trans and on the bottom are male to female. When you look at them do you see male or do you see female? You see you view them based on norms and not simply biology.

                I’m very different from a religious person using faith as a basis for analysis. I’m using actual scientific studies. I’d love to see your citations though!

              • Mithan

                In most cases, transgender people look like the opposite sex, because they spent many years on artificial drugs and operations to get to that point. As said before, most of these people have some type of medical condition that differentiates themself from the normal male/female biology. This of course does not mean they are lesser, it means they are different. Some children are born blind, some people are born in the wrong bodies and we are blessed enough in this day and age to help them get to the body they feel they should be.

                However, this is also where your own bullshit falls apart. If gender is truly just a social construct, why are they converting to obvious different roles? ie- man to woman, woman to man and then acting like the person they want to be? In theoriy, it shouldn’t matter if you are a woman or man if it is just a “social construct”, these people could just toss off the social brain washing and put on whatever they want, but they do not.

                Why?

                Because the physiological and psychological differences are real and that is who they feel they are.

                Their are real differences between men and women. Most boys prefer blue, most girls prefer pink. Most boys prefer trucks and breaking shit. Most girls prefer a doll. Obviously, their are some people in the middle, and confused people such as yourself help confuse them more.

                Please do not have kids.

              • Stexe

                It is largely a social construct. Just because people want to play into the cultural norms doesn’t mean it isn’t one. In fact, it supports the notion it is a social construct even more. The female nipple in USA is considered “nudity,” but in many other countries in the world it is not. That is a social construct, people follow it because they want to fit in, but that doesn’t mean they need to. You’re basically telling women to cover up because you think it is wrong.

                You keep saying “most” and implying that means “all” — yes, there are some majorities but there are also exceptions. Thus it isn’t binary. That’s the whole point.

                “Please do not have kids.” lol. Ad hominem attacks. The true sign you can’t actually carry an intelligence conversation.

                I’m still waiting for your legitimate sources backing up your claims. Haven’t seen any yet!

        • Bigstud69

          yes it is a mental disorder.

          • Stexe

            Wrong. Intersex isn’t a mental disorder. Again, study this stuff. Go look it up from any reliable source.

            • Bigstud69

              “Intersex” is a defect.

              • Stexe

                Depends on how you define “defect” — genetic abnormalities led to tons of evolutionary benefits over the years.

                And just because something is different from the norm doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Both gender and sex are non-binary. Fact.

              • Bigstud69

                “Both gender and sex are non-binary.”
                That’s false.

              • Stexe

                lol. No, it isn’t. Arguing with you is like arguing with a climate change denier.

                Sex: There are people who are not simply male or female based on genetics, look at intersex.
                Gender: There are people who identify as both male and female, somewhere in between, or neither. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity

                Spend some time researching this stuff. You make claims without any citations or any facts.

      • unicurse

        Well said!

      • Dan Sword

        Exactly this.

        But don’t worry. They’d still call you a cis nazi bigot facist anyway.

    • Adept

      WTF is wrong with these people? Grow the hell up you whiny little bigots.

      • Raptor Jesus

        You watch while normalcy and our culture are destroyed and take pot shots at anyone aware enough to see what’s happening. You ARE the barbarian inside the gates. Poor fool.

        • samplerico

          Someone has played too much Far Cry 5 😀

        • Wade Steel

          Oh man, now I’m REALLY looking forward to watching things burn!

      • Bigstud69

        If you’re not a bigot you’re not paying attention.

      • Bigstud69

        we care about reality and science over the fee fees of snwoflakes.

        • Dov

          Nah you only care abt that small dud you call a man.

    • B. Martin

      I rolled my eyes so hard at this article it looked like i was having a seizure. I mean I get it, I don’t think the gender option hurt, the character models in the creator were so hideous they all looked like “theys”.
      Look not everything needs to be “inclusive”. Not everything needs to try to please everyone. I can count on one finger how many girls I know play games. Mainly straight guys play video games. That’s just facts.

      Overall this option was harmless and I wouldn’t give the game a bad review because of it, but for me i rolled my eyes and was turned off to start a new game I bought. I ended up returning it because it was just too low budget looking.

      • samplerico

        If you only know straight guys who play games, then i guess you need to meet more people dude. More girls maybe? ;D

        • B. Martin

          I’ve been playing games for 25 years probably when you were in diapers. I didn’t say that LGBTQTIIPP people don’t play games, but the majority are straight white males.

          • Dan Sword

            +B. Martin
            Oh he understood what you meant the first time. This thread is full of numerous comments of his where he tries to deny statistical trends by referencing single exceptions. Seriously read his comments. He does it over and over and over. Either he’s mentally ill himself and there’s no end to the mental loopty-loops he’ll do to reaffirm his world-view, or he’s just a troll.

      • Paul Younger

        Yeh that’s cool if you think it’s low budget. That’s valid reason to mark it down if you have tried it.

      • unicurse

        They’ve misrepresented my review here by cutting it off. It’s the one at the bottom.

        I didn’t care about the gender pronouns beyond making a fairly tame joke about it, I was furious that the developer insta-banned my by abusing the “three strikes” rule by sending three warnings and no chance to read or respond to any of them before giving me a permanent ban.

        We’re not complaining about the pronouns.

        It’s the censorship and shutting down of opinions contrary to their own that we’re objecting to.

        • B. Martin

          yeah ive noticed that too with these little indie devs. They add options to just to please a few anita sarkessians on twitter, but don’t realize those people don’t buy and play your games. The white nerds with disposable incomes do.

          • Greg

            You would think white nerds wouldn’t be triggered by a single option given how much they complain about it. Hypocrisy is anti-white, I guess.

            • B. Martin

              what

              • Greg

                Who

      • Dov

        Rolled my eyes at this post claiming to dismiss the bigotry then returning a game without even trying it. Just because a 4 letter option threatened his masculinity.

        • B. Martin

          lol, “bigotry. intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.”

          Would you and everyone on this thread be a “bigot”?

    • Andrew

      I’m a minority male and its getting terrible how pop culture is pushing this anti-male, transgender agenda. Won’t be buying this game.

      • Wade Steel

        Sure you are!

        • Bigstud69

          don’t get so triggered snowflake.

        • Andrew

          I’m brown as fvck dude.

          Don’t think that minorities support the transgender agenda.

      • Greg

        How is a single option an “agenda”?

        • Bigstud69

          It normalizes a mental illness.

          • Greg

            Maybe your character is mentally ill?

    • unicurse

      At least post the full picture of that comment so there’s some perspective to it.

      I was banned for LOLing at a joke about gender pronouns on their forum, and they abused the Steam ban mechanics by giving me three warning messages within seconds and no chance to read any of them and no chance to respond.

      CLASSIC SJW tactic. Shut down debate, because it’s their way or the highway.

      That is censorship, pure and simple. Don’t care about the pronouns but there’s your “INCLUSIVE” and fair ideology, right there.

      It’s not just the gender pronouns.

      Why is there only 1 long hairstyle for the female characters but 15 short or bald ones and they can have beards and facial hair?

      Why can’t you have a blonde hair style?

      I know it’s a wargame, but that seems to be a very definite “no pretty long blondes, just butch blue haired dykes with beards”

      • unicurse

        Seems I’m not the only one to agree since my review is currently the most “helpful” voted review by a huge margin.

      • Greg

        I don’t even know why they wasted funds on a character creator, portraits would have been fine.

    • xCheck

      Does it really make a game worse?

      Definitely not. No matter what one thinks about these gender/sex related topics it doesn’t affect how bad or good the game itself is.

      • Dan Sword

        Actually it kind of does. It sorta breaks immersion for a fuedal galaxy full of brutality & war, when we’re to believe that everyone loves trannies; especially the grizzled space warriors.

    • Zim

      I’m not buying this game because of this, some of the gameplay reasons and how some of the dev team have treated people who don’t agree (bans etc).

      For others, enjoy the game, but I’m not going to apologize for not agreeing and not being interested because of my opinion. There are many other great games out there with mechs to be played. Front Mission series, Armored Core series, etc.

      • Dov

        It is a single player game for the most part. How are they banning you LOL. Nice fake news there snowflake

    • samplerico

      Whats funny too, is that this article has almost 1000% times more comments than any other article in this website. Over sensitive white pussys comes from behind the rocks.

      • Bigstud69

        You’re projecting again snowflake.

    • Greg

      This seems like nothing but bait to me, I’ve been on the official forum since they announced the kickstarter and no one over there cares/cared.

    • pmanhart

      There’s a BATTLETECH gender backlash because right-minded people know that there are only two genders, or sexes, and one cannot simply walk into Mordor and pronounce themselves the opposite.

      It’s really that simple. Attempting to take a higher road and say that the backlash is wrong for reason one, two and three is well within your right. However, imagine for a moment, that not everyone shares your opinion.

      God forbid someone has a different opinion and expresses it.

      • Dan Sword

        +mpanhart
        Are you fuckin crazy? You can’t reason with the mentally ill or the thoroughly indoctrinated.

    • MrMosquito

      I’d have to say that of all the possible ways the game about three-story war machines could’ve brought forward the gender thing, “letting the player pick ‘other’ ” is probably the least offensive. It literally affects nothing outside of an extra 1 or 0 for character generation.

      What a thing to be upset over.

      • Dov

        Alt right bigots have small duds so anything threatens them. For the rest of us real men, it is downright laughable.

    • Martin

      I honestly don’t get why Harebrained bothered with this pointless pandering. It is widely known that most SJWs don’t buy videogames.

      • Dan Sword

        Well, I know for a fact that they have a trans-nazi SJW moderating their forums. Apparently it’s been banning people for not using the “correct” pronouns. Here is what it looks like:

        https://8ch.net/v/res/14682714.html

        I am pretty sure this particular tranny is the basis for the in-game tranny super-genius mech pilot “Tinker”. The mary-sue’ish resemblance is pretty uncanny.

        • Martin

          Now why the fuck did I click that…

          • Dan Sword

            Because you wanted to see what the freak actually looked like. It’s OK. That’s how I found it too.

      • Dan Sword

        Also, Obsidian does this too (Pillars of Eternity). Remember the controversy with the “trans-hating” limerick from a kickstarter backer? They actually released a patch specifically to remove that harmless and humorous limerick. I actually saved the version of the game where it’s still there.

    • Michael Andersen

      Don’t freaking care, get a life!
      It’s simply beyond an EPIC game!

    • Dov

      Alt right lunatics are mentally unstable so they would know all about mental diseases.

    • UltimateSniper9000

      “It shouldn’t be hard to accept that some people don’t identify as either a man or a woman”

      What? Can someone even tell me what the fuck this means?

    • calliberjoe

      there are only two genders