As Star Citizen 3.0 continues to miss deadlines CIG release a statement

As Star Citizen 3.0 continues to miss deadlines CIG release a statement

As part of CIG’s transparency measures for backers, they regularly update the Star Citizen production schedule. This schedule is supposed to give backers an idea of where they are during each milestone. For the past few weeks, backers have noticed that aspects of the 3.0 schedule have been slipping each week.

This 3.0 milestone is the update backers have been waiting for since last year but it has slowly been slipping further into 2017. The update was scheduled for release at the end of June which then slipped further into August.

We have to assume they will rustle something up for Gamescom just to keep fans happy. While these special event demonstrations are always impressive, there’s little change to the actual game and they simply fuel the hype machine. The 3.0 update has been teased by CIG since August last year where it was unveiled at Gamescom.

This latest Star Citizen production schedule included the following notes:

This week, we entered the optimization, polish and bug fixing phase for the 3.0 feature set. As there have been so many features and content implemented, we’ve encountered some stability issues that we want to address before going to a wider test audience. The ongoing work on the new Patcher system (that will save you from having to completely re-download each build) and some new bugs with CopyBuild3 (our internal version of the patcher) have also slowed us down. Because of this we have pushed back the Evocati and subsequent date ranges to reflect the additional time needed to get Star Citizen Alpha 3.0 ready for prime time.

In an attempt to address and concerns about these further delays, the following post was made today.

There’s been quite a bit of healthy discussion about our recent Production Schedule update, so I thought I’d share a few thoughts and comments:

Our Production Schedule updates that you see are right out of the same software that our production team uses. No edits, no censors, no marketing spin.

  • We’ve created this as a service to you to keep you informed of what we are working on, with the goal of providing estimated date ranges.
  • As with all estimates, they can change. When venturing off into uncharted territory, one does not always see or know all of the challenges ahead of them; they are often complete unknowns until they present themselves along the way.
  • We’ve pushed far past the technological boundaries that were previously considered impossible to build the foundation of the Star Citizen universe. Working on 3.0 has certainly introduced variables and challenges that we could never have anticipated, and these just do not always cater to a tidy date on a calendar.
  • As gamers, we are conditioned to consider all dates as static points in time that we can wrap our heads around and plan for in advance. The nature of this project does not neatly fit into that mold due to the complexity of what we’re building, and with what we learn about what’s possible and needed along the way. These date ranges are dynamic according to the challenges presented to us at that time, and we actively maintain that to keep you up to date.
  • The scope of 3.0 is not insignificant, as Chris discussed in https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15842-Letter-From-The-Chairman-The-Road-Ahead. It introduces a level of tech and infrastructure that’s an order of magnitude larger and more complex than all of our previous versions combined. There are thousands of new assets, millions of entities to manage, new UI, new features, multiple new backend services, etc. all being introduced in 3.0.
  • Integrating all of this has revealed to be MUCH more of a bug fixing project than anticipated, which obviously reshapes those estimates and changes those dates. Hammering in a level of polish that we’ve not aimed for before requires an additional adjustment of dates.
  • There’s certainly no malice behind it, and anyone who makes that claim is providing an uninformed opinion. Ask any project manager or developer who worked on sophisticated software or has been involved on a complex project with lots of dependencies and moving parts. They’ll gladly share how challenging a task of estimates can be.
  • The heroic efforts of those creating and maintaining the Production Schedule should be commended. They represent our efforts to keep up with this complex and ever evolving ecosystem, and work tirelessly to keep you up to date through regular sweat and tears (and I think I saw blood once). It’s its own massive behemoth of a project, and they do it each week for you.

It’s just not in our DNA to hold updates and content back. We simply don’t do that. When it’s ready for primetime, it’s out the door for you to enjoy.

It’s also important to consider that what 3.0 meant a year ago is a shadow of what 3.0 means today. Back then, Planetary Tech would have offered a fraction of the freedom that it does in 3.0, and most of the numerous infrastructure updates going into it now did not exist. [WL: Edited previous sentence for clarity] Roughly speaking, the approach was that we’d be able to deliver four roughly built, predetermined, pre-scripted, landing zones. The reality is that those would have been rather limited, and ultimately, somewhat of a variation of what Area 18 ArcCorp is today in terms of features and functionality.

Today, 3.0 is about delivering an entirely explorable solar system with the backend services to make it dynamic. It’s about giving us the city and planet building tools to create for you the rest of the universe in an intelligent, scalable, efficient, and compelling manner. It’s about the first step in giving you the tools to create player outposts and communities. It’s about the streaming tech to allow you to take off from one moon, fly across the system, and land on an entirely different moon, the driving a freaking sweet buggy out of the back of your ship to race around the entire planet… all without a loading screen. It’s about giving you the ability to buy what’s on the web inside kiosks. It’s about usable turret gameplay, and Items 2.0 so you can customize your own ship with new components. It’s about picking objects and cargo so you can haul commodities across space as a trader and merchant. It’s about gutting a singleplayer engine to support thousands of players. It’s about infrastructure that we needed to develop because there are no off-the-shelf solutions for building an immersive experience like no other.

And that’s just part of what’s in 3.0!

The entire company is working feverishly to get you 3.0. Our goal is to provide you with the most amazing gaming experience ever. We’ve learned that we can deliver something better than the original 3.0, something bigger, something pretty groundbreaking, something magnificent.

That doesn’t always keep to a schedule, but we think it’s ok to take the time to do it right.

Happy Sunday everyone,

Will “Soulcrusher” Leverett

CIG will be pushing hard to get Star Citizen 3.0 ready for around Gamescom and we would not be surprised if their plan is to push it out in the weeks following the event which starts at the end of August. CIG would then use Gamescom again to showcase the 3.0 update and possible future features, and if fans are lucky, some Squadron 42.

Star Citizen’s development has been a tale of continual schedule slippages. Where is Squadron 42? Little of that has been shown and it’s long overdue. Star Citizen is an ambitious project that suffered from feature creep during the early funding process which has, unfortunately, lead to a bigger project, continual delays, and unrealistic milestones.

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  • Paul Younger

    Founder and Editor of PC Invasion. Veteran PC gamer of over 22 years.

    • Don Zunner

      Looks like CIG is working overtime on Damage Control. The only people falling for that nonsense are the ones that have sunk $thousand$ into a vaporware videogame.

      • Rob Cox

        Oh look, it’s Dzunner. Talking arse as usual.

        • Joe_Blober

          Yea… let’s have some fun… I have plenty of time and two PC’s and two screen on my desk. One for business and the other … for troll. That make my day with no activities drop 🙂

      • Michael Nielsen

        Oh, its our own village idiot

      • Joe_Blober

        Still upvoting yourself with your own alts Don Zunner? Still loving trolling every single article about Star Citizen?

        Just a question: Don’t you said a few weeks ago that seamless landing was not possible…at all 🙂 Well a guy name Christopher Livingston just did it. Oops!
        An independant journalist : First man on the moon: hands-on with Star Citizen Alpha 3.0

        And here the full CIG schedule report for one single patch… close to 41 pages of features… delayed.. a few weeks… this is the end! 🙂

        • Malakie

          Should start copying his quotes and posting them in reply with the date stamp etc… People like him really must have an unhappy life if all they can do is troll and write lies about something they have no real facts about.

          He reminds me of another known person that likes to post lies and outright false information regarding Star Citizen… something he does because his own coding crap was laughed at.

          • Tufao

            So… he reminds you Chris Roberts LoL

            • Mooki

              No, he is talking about you.

            • Malakie

              Sorry I should have been more clear since it is apparent trolls like you lack any brain power, let alone even simple concepts or common sense… I was talking about people like you!

              • Tufao

                Tried to talk about others, but ended describing Chris Roberts LoL

              • Joe_Blober

                Are you ok Manze? Do you take all your prescription?

        • iratepirate

          Totally agree here. It doesn’t matter what CR said at Cit Con. It doesn’t matter about delays. There is a schedule report, which they can change at any time and is always just estimates fully open to change over any period of time. Sure they have a history of showing and talking about things at big shows that don’t ever materialize (Morrow Tour, Star Marine weeks not months, Pupil to Planet, planetary landings back in 2015, Sandworms), but none of those are promises. That’s just marketing and CR has no responsibility to provide you with any of that in the foreseeable future.

          Stop with the FUD. Obviously, if you feel that CIG is being dishonest about their production and estimates, you can utilize r/starcitizen_refunds to follow the guides there.

          • Phoni Faux

            Space Residents schedules are written on toilet paper for a reason.

          • Joe_Blober

            And if you feel that a few very well known troll are doing their daily salty job, just go join a Community of +700.000 🙂
            We are here because we want to build something and not the same crap Publishers serrved us since the 10 past years. Jump on your crate as much as you want little troll, you won’t stop the train by throwing eggs to the locomotive…

            Go go litlle troll 🙂

            • iratepirate

              Totally agree here for the record. Trolls really aren’t what we need right now. We need people speaking just facts.

              Like if you feel not enough progress is being made and the “jesus patch” keeps getting cut down to less and less fun pieces, you should check out refund advice at r/starcitizen_refunds

              • Joe_Blober

                Jesus patch does not exist. But patch SC 3.0 made by a company strong of +428 talented guys yes… end of August more or less few weeks. Swallow it man… it is there right at the corner and can’t hide it 🙂

              • iratepirate

                Again, I’m neutral on what you believe. Totally fine to feel everything is great and the game at 3.0 is going to be better than all other space games combined. Bottom line, everyone should have an option to support CIG or not based on their behavior and results.

                If you decide that this patch isn’t enough progress, you should have full information that refunds are still possible as of now.

              • Joe_Blober

                Fine. You voice your opinion. Mine is that requesting refund on a game in Alpha make no sense as it is like trying to remove gazoline from a tank car because a passenger have the perception the travel is too long…

                I repeat for Readers: By no means this game is late. CIG started with 12 guys and 6 M$ end of Nov 2012 not like a multi-billions $ company (EA) that would have started at the same date but with right awau 150M$ budget, 1000 developers, uptodate engine and all tools and production pipelines at full gear.

                The players complain to get the same crap from Publishers… but with such attitude, not taking all factors into account, they are crying “Give us more of the Publishers style”

                CIG have now in 2017 all pipelines up to the “fidelity” required to reject Publishers practices and the 5 remaining patch are going to be released till end of 2018, which will bring the game to Beta. Also SQ42 Chapter 1 will have a schedule of release later this year.

                Let me clarify: this refund ranting by a few won’t have any effect on total budget and pledges coming with 3.0 and SQ42 Chapter 1. it is absolutely negligeable…
                Sale of concept Cyclone stopped yesterday…. Still without the concept sale, pledges have been of 60K$ today… 26K$ over the average daily pledges. Patch 3.0 with planet landing is going to be a massive flow of NEW backers as well.

                My post is not to prey anyone to no ask for whatever they want… it is just to say this is totally illogical in terms of game development time vs the remaining time (1 year and half) needed to get the other patch that just add few ships and jobs. Much less massive than 3.0.

                Especially the Don Zunner moron that lookat Master troll like the messiah an his indisputable expertise with “seamless from space to planet is decades away… because DS said it”…
                Proven false already with Christopher Livingston who played an early build of 3.0 not even totally optimised weeks ago…and the guy is shooting “refund”…

                Really it is your call man to be associated with this terrible low level troll debacle…

        • Don Zunner

          You are a total joke. I look forward to seeing you stroke out when CIG closes its doors very soon.

          • Joe_Blober

            Yes… I have a date….. 90 days Top 🙂

            • Don Zunner

              Watching you melt down in real time and seeing you dismantle that bullshit blog you have will be one of many victories. Most of all because you WILL know that Derek Smart was right and there will be nothing you can do about it.

              • Joe_Blober

                Patch 3.0…. End of August, beginning of September… when it is ready. Quality stay
                for ever, crap disappear… it is like comments you know 🙂

                Beside that Christopher Livingston did played already 3.0 before everybody:
                https://www.pcgamer.com/first-man-on-the-moon-hands-on-with-star-citizen-alpha-30/

                Trolling is hard those days… 🙂

                How about this “Seamless from space to planet not possible before decades” prophecy of the Clown Derek? Ask DS what he is thinking about it 🙂

                Kiss Don…

        • Marty

          Wasn’t that the guy from PCGamer that never actually played the game but said he did?

          • Joe_Blober

            Sure. His name: Christopher Livingston and dreamed he played 3.0 and write an article about it:
            https://www.pcgamer.com/first-man-on-the-moon-hands-on-with-star-citizen-alpha-30/

            What a low level trolling 🙂

            • Don Zunner

              Sure he did. Now you go lap that up like the good brainwashed dog you are. The fact that you spend ALL of your time trying to defend CIG in every comment section on the internet is proof that you are in fact very insecure that CIG can’t pull it off. You are a joke and I am laughing at your hand-wringing and worrying that someone says a bad word about your favorite video game. I love the fact that you have my name written in multiple places in your shit level blog too. It’s nice to have a fan so dedicated.

              • Joe_Blober

                Hate as much as you want if this is your concept of an healthy life 🙂

                Your life not mine.

              • Don Zunner

                Don’t try backpedaling now sperg. You are the one that spends every waking hour stalking every comment section on the internet jumping on every comment of people that are critical of this failed project. You are the one with a psychopath running list of people in a bullshit blog that is totally creepy. And you have the nerve to try and deflect someone calling you out on it as hate? Buddy you need professional mental help and some serious medication for your insane video game addiction.

              • Joe_Blober

                That much take time to upvote yourself with all those alts… By curiosity do you use multi seesion + VPN or just Chrome recording login+Pass?

                Thanks for your help! Because of your vast knwoledge of this scam I get refunded of 1.584.226 $ + a Picasso as they are running out of cash! Thanks so much!

            • Marty

              Okay he played it, then why haven’t CIG released this so backers can try it out? Sorry everything I have read this guy never actually played the game. Because there is no real game made yet.

              • Joe_Blober

                Keep twisting facts as you want. There are two articles of an independant journalist on PCgamer that prove the opposite. You want to hate SC? Fine go ahead… that won’t stop the fact a strom of new backers are going to join at 3.0 and at each single patch till end of 2018.
                Hate as much as you want if this is your concept of an healthy life 🙂

              • Marty

                I doubt anyone that uses attacks in their comments about CIG and CR! Next time show us proof not attacks. You might win an argument once you do.

              • Joe_Blober

                Proof?

                https://www.pcgamer.com/first-man-on-the-moon-hands-on-with-star-citizen-alpha-30/

                But you do not care about proof. You are just here to troll.

                Keep trolling. I won’t feed the troll.The link I left are for others Readers.

                keep answering your delirium 🙂

              • Marty

                There you go again, can’t show facts you are right, yet all you do is attack. Exactly what CR does when Derek started showing how there is no game and the money is gone!

              • Joe_Blober
              • Marty

                All I see is words and a trailer. Can you show me the live version of this guy actually played the game. No video no proof!

              • Joe_Blober

                Ok thanks for confirmation. Hence you say exactly: An independant journalist named Christopher Livingston working on PCGamer lie nothing is true, that does not exist.

                That is more clear.

              • Marty

                Hate to tell you this but a lot of people have called PCGamer liars. But again if he played the game and CR has been telling us the truth, why not show us them playing this actual game they keep saying they played.

                Hell CR keeps not allowing any backer to play this 3.0 game because it’s not ready, yet this jerk at PCGamer says he played it.

                Show us the video of you playing talking, just doing normal things in a online game.

                In the USA we say show us or shut up.

              • Joe_Blober

                Quote:”In the USA we say show us or shut up.”

                Yes I can understand that it is more believable to have ourself an apple in hand and say: “I can eat it”…. but do not take USA as an example please…. A country where everything possible (like in many place)… good like bad.

                Scientology, Evolution nay-sayer (Earth was populated by Alien humanoid…. because Nothing, unless God put it there), Amstrong never walk on the moon:
                Moon Landing

                At one point you have to take some distance with conspiracy and just realised that CIG behavior in 2017 is different because of their very detailed Schedule report. Yes it slipped from June to August. But details of remaining bugs are minimal.

                And calling liar PCGamer releasing to the world two articles saying their journalist played 3.0 is also valid than run a marathon on water on bare foot

                CIG started with 12 guys and 6M$ in end 2012… what they did is amazing.

              • Don Zunner

                There are no facts you retarded game junkie. You really are brain damaged with all this nonsense you keep writing.

              • Joe_Blober

                I love you too AStormApproaches ooops Don Zunner, ooops DZunner Oops gamerofthrones ooops…

              • Don Zunner

                Typical response of a mental patient that is addicted to video games. Next you will start calling me Derek Smart too. This is all you have in your pathetic life and I look forward to seeing it fall apart in front of you while there is nothing you can do about it.

              • Joe_Blober

                Ouch… you hurt me… I can’t anymore… this is too hard… so salty… Refund my 1.965.451$! before to laaaaaate 🙂

              • Don Zunner

                Suuuure buddy.

              • Marty

                Not sure about you but all the guy does is call people names and can’t show any proof there is a real game. Bout ready to block the fool!

                The funny part CR keeps showing these game demos as a real game. Also after all these years it is clear there is no way they have anything close to 155+ Million. Let alone really made 155 million. All we can do is take his word until he shows us backers the financials we have every right to see. But who can believe anything CR says after all the lies he told us!

              • Don Zunner

                Yeah. That guy is about one of the worst mental patients you can find that is addicted to video games and has chosen to do nothing but stalk and harass people while trying to get someone from CIG to sleep with him.

            • Phoni Faux

              Christopher Livingston Seagull Played the game?

      • Malakie

        Troll much? You want some wine with that whine? It is amazing how someone like you that does not work there and probably has not backed or even bothered to look at the game dev for the two games in development at the same time, can sit there and make statements as if they are fact based.
        Why don’t you move on and find something real and base on fact to talk about instead of trolling about things you obviously are clueless on?
        Better yet, why don’t YOU try to write TWO full games at the same time.. then come back here and tell us how easy it is and why you did not deliver when people like you expected you to….
        You can start with writing the code for 64 bit procedural math and interacting physics grids.. you know just that little thing that HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE so it took time to figure out….

        • Phoni Faux

          Chris Roberts has not made any games since Wing Commander 2. Get a clue.

          • Marty

            Actually he never finished a game to release, yes even WC! The guy is nothing but a scammer.

            Bet he is doing what he has done in the past. Attempting to find someone to buy his companies to finish the game. Amazing how gullible a lot of these backers are.

            • Joe_Blober

              Quote:”Actually he never finished a game to release,”

              Well guys who bought and play all his games have to disagree… Rewrite the historyas you want.. CR did not received 155M$ and growing because he was a loser… exactly the opposite… it is like pretending those 155M$ are fake 🙂

      • Stannis Targaryen

        And yet the quality of SC in it’s current state is way better then anything these shit publisher’s are putting out…But you don’t hear anyone complaining about them…because it has become such a trend in the gaming industry….people just buy that shit up because they don’t have the patience to wait for a good quality game…..like Star Citizen. And I would like to see that trend change for the better hence why im proud to support it…

        • Mooki

          Indeed, pumping out AC’s BF’s and COD’s and FIFA’s like its cheap candy and the ones complaining about SC are the ones that buy that schizz.

          • Malakie

            Exactly right.. Those that buy that cheap knockoff cookie cutter crap are the ones buying it..

            What I find hilarious even more is how many of those same idiots claim to be experts in combat and weapons because they play COD. What a joke.

            • Mooki

              Oh yeah that is often true indeed. At the vbery least they will talk and act like it if they do not just straight up claim it. That wanabee fagtor right :*)

              oops
              *Factor

        • Tufao

          “And yet the quality of SC in it’s current state is way better then anything these shit publisher’s are putting out.”

          LoL
          Listening to the feedback of Star Citizens regarding “quality” and “better” is like to hear people defending the high level of quality or “better” status of Duke Nukem Forever and Alien: Colonial Marines to name a few.
          Sunk cost falacy leads to people lying to themselves indeed.

          • Stannis Targaryen

            Lol, I guess your speaking from experience..due to the fact that you couldn’t give me any real examples of games that are out currently that come close to what CIG is developing. And the truth is that these publishers cut the meat out of a games so they can sell it to you in DLC that should have already been in game at release…And I think that’s the real “Sunk cost falacy” you speak of….

            • Tufao

              Hi Vander. Talking as Stannins now? LoL

              • Stannis Targaryen

                Hi DS. Talking as Tufao now? Lol
                So like I said there is no game out developed by a publishers that can come anywhere close close to Star Citizen…you keep talking in circles…The thing is Star Citizen development model actually scares these publishers to death. Because when this hugly anticipated game which is Star Citizen goes live and is the huge sucess that we all know it will be..Then these shit publisher’s will actually have to raise thier bar and put more content in their games to come. In stead of the shortcuts they take now to save money….

                And that is better for the gaming community as a whole…I think games should be made by the fans and not some publishers who could careless about you and who’ s only worry is the bottom dollar… And for the record DS your broken games need alot of work…mybe you should try crowd funding its the future of gaming….lol

              • Joe_Blober

                A starter package is only 45$ and no need to spend an extra cents man… 🙂

              • Stannis Targaryen

                Hi DS. Talking as Tufao now? Lol.

                Like I stated before no published game out right now comes close to what CIG is developing..The only game I thought would come close to SC was ED….I even supprted ED at kickstarter and Frontier Games really screwed the pooch on that one…They put the cart before the horse. Made this massive galaxy with little to no content in it….it was very repetitive with the same exact station at every port…now all it has become is feature creep…its basicly a steaming pile of shit at this point…But now we have SC which is going to change how games should be made in the future from the ground up….And it will be incredibly cool to see when complete.

                DS you should look into kickstarter for your next game because that is the future of gaming….Oh wait on second thought probably not a good idea considering your name and reputation are now shit in the gaming community…becuase you can’t shut your trap and make a decent game….
                So kickster is no longer a viable option for you…….LOL

          • Joe_Blober

            Your lies can be rejected in block just by… login in Star Citizen. Arena Commander, Star marine, PU persistent Universe are tangible proof.
            Beside that, crying wolf because of bugs is just childish… you know the meaning of Alpha? 🙂

        • Don Zunner

          Tell me more about how much better it is while it is nothing short of a buggy tech demo that crashes more than it loads. LOL! How much are you in for commando?

          • Stannis Targaryen

            Well maybe you should look into upgrading your rig..Maybe up the RAM…..It runs beautifully for me commando…best gaming experience in all of gaming and only gets better with each new update…Right now as it stands its better then anything made by these shit publisher’s….you should give it a wurl….Oh yeah I forgot you have a crap rig….or maybe your just a disgruntled console fan boi….The PC Master race is only getting stronger by the day so I would seriously look into that upgrade…

        • Joe_Blober
    • AStormApproaches

      Keep in mind that refunds are still available for Star Citizen, but we don’t know for how much longer that will be the case.

      • Joe_Blober

        Keep in mind that AStormApproaches is a well know anti-SC troll jumping on every SC article to create havoc and trouble.
        … and Don Zunner…. the lowest of them. We are missing MoreDelays that should come in no time 🙂

        • vander

          Unfortunately it is well known fact that PC Invasion is not a place if one wants to have a good discussion about Star Citizen. It is probably just one or two persons behind those accounts but they are already able to ruin the conversation when there is no much people around anyway.

          • Mooki

            Just block them all.

          • Tufao

            “good discussion about Star Citizen”: make marketing and lie about the game status and progress to try to get a few more fools in this tragedy. They need money to refund the ones who already felt in this trap of course. As they throw yours in the money pit or in their trips to Monaco, or in a lot of waste just to try to sell more this garbage, they need new money
            😉

            • Joe_Blober

              Tufao… tss tss tss. ou bave been the first accountbanned by CIG for toxic behavior… just before the master troll DS.

              Keep spreading crap man. Since 3 years you are claiming scam, CIG received 90M$ and are now close to +700.000 backers. You hate yourself so much… jeep coming this make this thread more visible=more bacekrs ::)

            • vander

              Just for interest – would you like to see Star Citizen being a success? Is there other games with the same feature set people should support instead?

            • Joe_Blober

              CIG receive 2M$ pledges per month on average and SC 3.0 is going to double that… people do not ask for refund… they ask for starter package at 45$. less than a Triple-A made by EA but with a game that no Publishers have made or ever do…. this is the end 🙂

        • Mooki

          Astorm = don.

          • Joe_Blober

            Yea Mooki, not a surprise. This is why he is pissed off. having alts publicly visible and stored in a safe place for all is absolutely a slap in face… look at them running like behaded chicken 🙂

            • Mooki

              Aint that the truth :*)

        • iratepirate

          Completely agree. Everyone should know at this point about r/starcitizen_refunds. Bringing it up is fine since it’s important that every person makes an informed decision. Just don’t get overboard or make any trolling statements.

        • Don Zunner

          Tell us more about how you are a creepy video game junkie that stalks people online and has a running psychopath list of people you obsess over.

          • Joe_Blober

            quote:” running psychopath”

            Yeah sure… you do not look like a running psychopath right?…. Weeks ago: “seamless space to planet is decades away” DS said it on March 2017!… and it is coming end of August in SC 3.0 🙂 Decades away… oh man! 🙂

            Well man, DS is the real running psychopath and you run with him.. he will do like he always do, left you in middle of your river of frustration and desillusion… He does not care about anything but hurting CR since 2 decades and because each of his prohecies are false…. he will fade out in few quarters. You will stay like the remaining useful video game junkie you like to depict others.

            Your destiny is sad man…

      • gamerofthrones

        The backers have been buying more expensive JPEGs to pay money launders who buy them too, earlier, and ask refund later. Meanwhile the executives get their profit from this flop through high salaries, so, for them, that’s what really matter. It’s a genious way to scam consumers in a “legal” way.

        • Malakie

          Seriously? LOL You need to back off on the drugs….

          • Tufao

            – Get dirty money;

            – Buy JPEG’s from a company that will refund because screwed in their marketing (they ends obligated to refund, because you all support a little bait-and-switch for the “greater good” right?);
            – Wait for some time and ask the money back.
            – You get the money back, refunded, previously from dirty business, now clean.

            The company owners don’t care because the money that they will refund is got from new money donated from honest backers/dreamers who keeps throwing cash on them. Pretty much like a Piramid, except that those who came earlier with legit reasons and keep throwing their money in this money pit for legit reasons (fools) are those who screw themselves.

            Of course, it’s a bubble that in some point will explode in litigation, but, at this point, they already made their profit through high salaries and bonus that they got in a monthly basis from this money and certainly have enough protection to do not have any obligation to repaid anything, with a certain bankruptcy of the business.

            It will take as long as you people keep paying for nothing, since, to convince people to thrown money on them, Roberts have to keep promissing the moon while deliver rocks. Anyway, money launders appreciate your efforts. Keep buying Idris for them.

            • Malakie

              BUWAHAHAHA.. 10 people in 2 years.. Yea, let’s see, Derek Smart and quite a few others said IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE for CIG to create the 64 bit procedural math and physics grids within physics grids.. Yet CIG did and it took a lot longer than 2 years and 10 programmers. And I could cite other examples.. but of course anyone reading your comment can see you don’t bother with facts.

              Hell even here some of you said seamless transition to planets was impossible.. Yet what have we seen and played? Why seamless transition to planets! But wait.. that’s impossible too you all said.

              And as for your screenshot theory.. That’s funny because I can send you VIDEO RECORDING I PERSONALLY MADE of many of those so called “screenshots” you elude to while IN the game flying around…

              Then again I suppose you are one of those conspiracy nuts that thinks the Earth is flat, the moon landing was fake and 9/11 or the holocaust of WWII never happened..

              Wake up.. What excuse will you use when 3.0 is released in the next couple weeks? Or will you be man enough to come back here and admit you were completely wrong?

              • Tufao

                It’s cool that you have so little expectations after spending thousands of dollars on this. Sadly, that’s not what the rest of the industry, between gamers, press and everyone else have when looking to Star Citizen, because RSI and co. challenged the whole industry, claiming to be better and doing something better, as well as required more patience of its backers, to what appears to be, not the best for the game, just the best for their pockets (milking crazy whales like you).

                There is no conspiracy theory. The game-as-promised is less t han 0.5% completed. What yoy have to “make personal videos” is 0.5% of what was promised for THREE years ago. Most of the features promised is vaporware. Some were already removed due feature creep. All contradicting the speech of Roberts used in their marketing for a long time, and that, in that time, we would listen to people like you, claiming that they were right and everyone saying that was wrong was a crazy hater that “does not know nothing about game development”

                You guys are a broken record and its pretty much embarrassing for yourselves that you keep defending what cannot be.

                Instead, you should be doing what any consumer would do in this situation. Require results, that they deliver what they promise and then, ,later, they think to add more. But hell! The planetary scheme basically killed the project.

                Now, in order to have 100 systems as promised, they will have to get billions of dollars and ten decades, if we know well how are their standards, which we already know.

                Good luck with your 5% of tech-demo, broken, full of issues, bad performance, and at a ridiculous high cost fo you and a few whales. You are just lost in the sunk cost falacy.

                3.0 means not too much. It has been delayed in one year almost, and its coming without most of the promised features (pretty much the standard of RSI since they started). It’s a couple of moons with not too much to add. Nothing really so different in terms of experience that other games already did in a a “released” not pre-alpha/tech demo unstable/broken status. The idea of walking with your avatar does not mean too much. Not even thousands and thousands of kilometers, w hen there is no “game” there… or no game that justifies it, that makes it really cool and fun. It ends ot be a screenshot simulator… works only to take “cool” screenshots and sell this garbage as a game. One that, except by very very few people, nobody is playing or interested, or will find “reasons” to upgrade their machines to start to dream to play this with an average performance.

                It’s pathetic and a flop. And the fact that they sell those expensive JPEG’s is pretty much their admission that they are unabgle to sustain this flop in other way
                😉

              • Malakie

                Do you have an account? Have you backed Star Citizen? Before I answer your long reply, let’s clear things up.. Did you back and do you have an account?

              • Joe_Blober

                He get banned 5 years ago for being toxic again CIG staff and Sandi
                here a link describing the all story about DS and trolls…
                https://wordpress.com/page/sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/4

              • Malakie

                aha.. so in essence he is talking out his bunghole and has no idea what the truth or facts even are.. That explains a lot.

              • Phoni Faux

                I did, it got boring fast.. Got refunded. I got tired of the litany of excuses. He had no excuses when he took players money, Now we get years of nonsense in schedules that shift like sand. What a joke.

              • Joe_Blober

                Quote:”after spending thousands of dollars”

                … false… starter game package is 45$ and no need to spend an extra cents… try harder 🙂

            • Joe_Blober

              Sure… people are scared. SC 3.0 is comin by end of August and CIG do receive every month an average of 2M$…. Not only the game development is doing very well but numbers of backers increased by 10.000’s 🙂

              keep trolling TUfao… little banned troll from CIG 5 years ago already… Still hurt? 🙂

              • Malakie

                I agree.. these trolls are so terrified because 3.0 is going to be here in the next few weeks and it will prove and show them to be exactly what they are… Liars and cowards. And their little followers will finally see the truth about them which means the attention they get will be gone for good.

              • Joe_Blober

                Yeah and if you want to have good fun… Just go to my Blog site and leave me a message through an email adress that I can reply to. I would give you a link where you can have quite some fun, at least for reading… No need to give it to trolls 🙂

        • Joe_Blober

          +600.000 backers can take off in their 3D Jpegs, fight, quantum drive, get out from their ship, repair station, fight with machine guns, back to their ship… alone or in muliplayers…. a true vaporware with billions squre km2 of space, moons, stations made of rotating jpges… 🙂

      • Malakie

        Go for it… Me? I think I will spend another couple thousand just because the project is what 1.8 MILLION backers think it is…

        • LightsOut

          There are not 1.8 million backers. Not even close.

          • Malakie

            Well that’s funny because their LEGAL required financial statements they have to make in the USA claim there are 1.8+ million accounts.

            Now I grant you some of those may be duplicates so let’s say 400,000 give or take 100,000 are duplicate accounts. That still leaves 1.2+ MILLION backers.

            Why don’t you get some facts before posting bull**** comments? All you have to do is go back to school and learn to read and the facts will be right there for you to read!

            • Tufao

              Around an year ago, they claimd to have 500k when they have 1.2 million backers in their counter. What made you believe that along the last year, where basically nothing was added to the game, they grown twice the number of copies sold that they have?
              Are you buying more and more multiple accounts in the hope to give them away for free in the future? I don’t doubt. I know many whales doing exactly that.
              Still, I highly doubt that they sold 1.2 million, half of that, just in the last year
              😉

              But I guess they didn’t teach you that in the CHRIST Roberts Religion school right? Where the facts is blind faith and blind faith are facts.

              • Joe_Blober

                155M$ and growing… keep trolling Tufao

                CIG Date and number

              • Malakie

                LOL prove it.. They announced 1.3 MILLION accounts last year at Gamescon.. or maybe it was 1.4 MILLION. If you feel the need to troll so bad, why don’t you at least get your facts right so you can argue using truth instead of some fantasy in your own head?

              • Tufao

                You talk about fantasies while your entire perspective is a fantasy. It’s hilarious!

                https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4sifhi/interview_with_turbulent_and_some_backers_figures/

                Accounts are not equal to backers or copies sold. “Number of accounts” means, basically, nothing, since I can go there right now and create how many accounts I dediced to, in order to “support” an image of popularity and grow. Specially if I pledged too much money on this, I would be driven to do exactly that “for the greater cause”. Because “I am the Star Citizen marketing”, right?
                LoL

                Most important measure would be copies sold. And even more important in the Star Citizen case: RETENTION. Both are a total disaster in the SC case. It only survives because the ridiculous prices that they sell those JPEGs.
                And, an year ago, a guy from Turbulent claimed they had sold around 500k, and that means LESS THAN 500k individuals buying this game, because we know:
                a) That people bought multiple accounts – common whale behavior, buying plenty of packages to give away to friends;
                b) That probably the number told by the Turbulent guy didn’t include how many of these around 500k, asked refund.

                So, it’s far away of your around 2 million “backers” and ridiculous speculation, while suggesting that the other guy go back to school. In other words, there is no worst way to ashame yourself, as you did.

                That been said! Grow up! Don’t you have anything better to say than just “Lalala you are troll” childish argument? No? Ok.
                Keep ashaming you and your community then.

                Sometimes I think that guys like you are the real trolls. It’s amazing that you don’t see that your behavior online is what make the SC community sound like an insane cult and that instead helping, only make the image of the community and the game worst.

                It’s an incredible level of shame. First, RSI making enough to make you all to appear as legit fools. Then, you behaving exactly like even worst fools.

                I am just not so ashamed to be a space sim fan because despite your efforts to make this public to appear like retards, it’s just less than 500k of guys like you, a lot less, and most of them asked refund, while 1.4 million copies of Elite: Dangerous were sold. And there is one or other, that just did not get all their money back and their accounts back, just to watch and give a fair opinion about this mess (which is my case, for example). I am fair person and while I thought that only their marketing approach would lead them to a disaster, the fact is that even their development and leadership is a disaster.
                They totally quit of the game and its future to milk retards. It’s impressive indeed, like Roberts decided to thrown away any chance of retirement with a good name, for the sake of more profit. But I guess, that’s what most people do these days… money calls!

                Thankfully, more serious developers which care with ethics and public satisfaction, with the niche, of their own reputation and reputation of the genre, and do not promise whatever thing to get money from fools while burning all the rest in the process, are still the ones with more support in this genre, even that such support of MORE people, means less money (which is fair, because you don’t milk people in the way that Star Citizen does if you are competent… you only milk this way if you are not, and have to do that to get money).

              • Malakie

                You have NOT answered my question. Are you a backer and/or do you have a Star Citizen account?

                Second, what is it you are trying to get out of trolling the game? Is this personal from you? Is that why you try to change the facts when you are told them, try to change the narrative to fit your trolling comments?

                Did someone at CIG insult you or do something that just made you angry so you have to insult and throw comments that are pretty much bull**** to try and get people to follow you? Or are you just trying to get attention from yourself because you were beat up as a kid?

                It is apparent you have no facts to back up your bogus assertions. Anyone with common sense can read your words and figure that out really quick.

                You also make a LOT of ASSumptions about backers.. You keep talking about people spending thousands yet the majority of backers spent what, $35 to $60 to get their account AND TWO GAMES for the price of one… I wonder, how many COD’s or other cookie cutter games do YOU OWN that you bought in those price ranges? And how many publishers today develop TWO separate games at the same time and then sell them for those prices? NONE that I know of.

                Finally, I will ask you the second question again.. When 3.0 releases in the next couple weeks, are you going to come back here and admit you were totally and completely wrong? Or are you too much a coward and instead continue to try and play word games making new claims based on bull**** again?

                BTW, if you get your so called ‘facts’ from reddit, that pretty much explains it since no official information is posted on reddit, only speculation by other people like you and/or backers.

              • Joe_Blober

                Are you feeling hurt Tufao or should I say Manze to have been banned 5 years ago by COG for “Toxic behavior against CIG staff”?

                Still have not swallow the pill?

                https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/

              • Joe_Blober

                Too short of a text… can you elaborate?

              • Joe_Blober

                Quote:” blind faith” … but Star Marine was cancelled you remember as per the Master Troll…. and is a playable module since beginning of the year 🙂

                “Seamless from space to planet is decades away” said the Master Troll (DS) in another post….. Delivered in patch 3.0 in few weeks and already played live by Christopher Livingston (PCGamer)…

                In patch we trust! 🙂 I

        • Phoni Faux

          Please do. Roberts needs your money.

      • kratier

        i bought the game for 30, atleast the singleplayer campaign will be released eventually, and thatll be worth it. and if the multiplayer comes out, good.

      • Mooki

        oh hey don.

      • Joe_Blober

        155M$ and growing… keep trolling Astrom, Tufao, Gameofthrones…. 🙂

        Here is a link about Trolls and why they are doing it specifically againt SC. DS followers they are, haters they become 🙂

        Why those guys are trolling and get banned years ago

      • Joe_Blober

        Yeak keep trolling man. + 180K in 3 days from new backers. Your attempt to hurt this project you hate have zero effect… but to make SC more visible 🙂

      • Joe_Blober

        Yeah but my preferred refund story is this one poste by another well known troll right in this comment section:

        Quote :”People have been threatened if they get their refunds. Many people are hiding their identity to get their money back. https://goo.gl/NeUTNG < Realized I was in too deep ($16,925)!
        … this is nothing more than a scam! Get that refund today before it's too late!

        Yeah troll….
        Here is another copy of a refund of 108,730.46$ 'hence more than 100K$)
        https://imgur.com/3tqgBK1

        Looks true right? Fake of course…I did it myself in minutes just to parody the others fake found on internet…

        And the link provided by Marty Troll above, is as per the web site itself:

        Sorry folks, nothing to see here. Turns out the refund was a fake. 🙂

        But there is one truth… It is not too late to join 3.0 coming in few weeks!!

        Welcome to the Verse guys!

    • StarCitizen2015

      The 2016 date was an estimate. In game development estimates are always goals not promises. We all knew that 3.0 was not going to be ready lat December.

      This latest delay is because they need to add more fidelity to the game. It is the first AAAA game revolutionizing PC gaming. They need to develop so much new technology it makes NASA look like amateurs.

      Will explained this perfectly!

      • crab hands

        Heh is this a parody account?

        • Joe_Blober

          Yes StarCitizen2015 is a troll account. His particularity compared to others is that it try to make a parody. One of them is:
          “I sold my healt Insurance to buy a completionist package”

          I suggest him to put some more emotion, like:

          “I sold the 2 kidney of my unique son to buy 5 ships. Funeral will be at next Gamescom, without me unfortunately”… 🙂

          • StarCitizen2015

            I can do what i want with my money and stop talking about my family which you don’t know nothing about. Just because my wife had to get a second job to pay for our ships does not mean we are stupid.

            Stop harassing me and telling others to harass me as a troll everywhere, you are a creepy stalker and you need to get banned!

            • Joe_Blober

              Man do you think that Moderators are stupid? There are used to see alts account like yours coming and fade out since the last 3 years… Your behavior is crystal clear man… 🙂

              I am not harassing you. I just pinpoint your behavior which is factually based on harassing all SC aticle comment section with your parody of “true story coming from original backer”… nor I even and will never talk about relatives of anyone.

              But what is not a lie is this new post again with terrible low level trolling.

              Feel free to add comments that do provide something useful to the discussion.

    • Joe_Blober

      To readers looking looking for serious information, I suggest to jsut go to offcial CIG web site, describing what is ready, what is coming and future patch coming between August to mid-2018:

      CIG schedule report

      • Godmode_Enabled

        Maybe Joe is a troll account since anyone posting anything the slightest bit critical of Christ Roberts is a troll.

        • Joe_Blober

          A bit critical? You mean like scam, vaporware, Jpegs? Shooting pure lies like “landing on planet is impossible”?
          May be you have something useful to share beside speculating about someone that do provide factual information?
          Feel free to add comments that do provide something to the discussion 🙂

      • Tufao
    • Nex Rotix

      I love the keyboard warriors who show up and scream DELAYS! SCAM! VAPORWARE! Until people take notice then they masturbate in a dark corner with their own drool as they salivate over the commotion. Anyone who has been in SC from the beginning, anyone who has invested any real time in watching the 5-6 hours of weekly video updates from the production houses across the UE, UK, and USA, or anyone with half of a degree of care about the validity of what they are about to write (and put their name on at that) would put in their due diligence and read a little and watch a little and would realize that writing this article or any fear-hype scandal-type editorial piece is a wasted effort and will only cause people to either 1) know immediately that you’re full of piss and vinegar and don’t do research or write an unbiased piece of public work or 2) send them to go do their own small amount of research and realize that: see iteration #1.

      SC has made incredible process, as well as Star Marine which is the basis for S42. The weekly updates since last gamescom when CIG promised 3.0 by december of last year have given the world very informative updates, hands on previews, coding changes with actual resources, as well as them being blatant and open about needing to create a new substrate code and subsumption program which no otger video game has ever had from scratch. Once they got those together months later they began applying all the old coding to it… althewhile still updating patrons and haters alike of their updates.

      The plain truth of the matter is: the 1.8 million people who funded the $155 million game company only has a handful of people that want their $25-45 back and they can have it. Noone wants those douches in the game anyway. And everyone else that actually looks into everything that’s done weekly on the multitude of video, interview, article, and digital magazine updates already is enjoying what we have been given access to at this point and has seen the game make progress from nothing, to a hangar, to a hangar with a vr pod for arena comander, to ships and hangar flair that are customizeable, to a virtual persistent universe where we can actually play together. Yeah… vaporware. Its vaporware for sure because all those other vaporware games that have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars all went all out by hiring 800 employees, renting 4 years of 5 commercial business offices and paid for 800 computers and electricity at each office… as well as pay salaries for each of the employees well 800 employees working 35 hours a week times 52 weeks a year and minus the average 5 weeks of vacation time is 1,645 hours per year each.. times 800 employees well thats 1,316,000 hours needing to be paid out. Paying everyone $10 an hour well thats a joke right? But humor me. At $10 an hour thats $13,000,000… times four years is $52,000,000 well for a vaporware company that seems normal right? Lie to everyone for 5 years, spent the first year of it setting up multiple production offices, hiring hundreds of people and then give away 1/3 of the money you’re meant to steal in this extremely lengthy scam that is designed to steal everyone’s money!

      How do you wake up on a daily basis and live a normal life? Are you like always on the lookout for people who are out to get you? Christ ill pay you $45 to just stfu and drop the fear mongering. One less douche squirting dirty runoff water helps keep the world free of staph infections, toxic shock, and helps avoid the stench of under the bridge dwelling trolls.

    • Seth586

      I never backed a kickstarter, and haven’t since, except for Star Citizen because it was a project that no publisher or investment group would touch. We are getting a game that the PC master race wants, not an arcade shooter that is cut down to budget, time, and cross platform limtations.

      With that said, your faith in Chris Roberts depends on who you are. I backed the project because of his reputation, and based on the info thus far he is putting my small investment to good use.

      • Malakie

        Same here. The fact there is NO publisher and no board of directors or share holders controlling Chris Roberts development IS the very reason so many backed. We are tired of the canned, linear, play once only, pay to play, cookie cutter games.

        Today you look at 95% of the games out there, especially MMO’s and they are ALL the same formula…

        These trolls are just so clueless they cannot seem to grasp that concept that this project is so far outside that normal cookie cutter formula it will take MUCH more time and work to accomplish because it is NOT like anything else ever done before.

    • Dignity

      “unfortunately, lead to a bigger project” What…I don’t see how people can say this when they can just easily play Destiny and call it the best game ever or No Mans sky and praise it for what it is because they kept it minimal.

      • vander

        It is sad that PC gaming web sites are treating PC just as “a bit more powerful console”. I don’t understand why big and ambitious PC games would be bad somehow. We should celebrate these games and developers.

    • vander

      The 3.0 demo they showed last year looked impressive back then but their techs has progressed much further and it looks pretty bad already compared what they have shown recently. Especially if they are able to make a release with delta patcher then I don’t mind at all that they have not met schedule estimates.

    • Shogun1x

      It’s doomed.

      • Joe_Blober

        Totally doomed… New backers pledges +200K$ in just three days Double the average daily pledged and right during another “drama this is the end” campaign… 🙂

    • Tinus

      It all doesn’t matter anymore now, the game is almost over.

      Chris
      has stated that if funding went dry this day, they’d still have enough
      money to finish the game SQ42 and that the revenues generated by SQ42
      would enable them to complete the rest of SC. So, in building the games,
      money is no issue. However, the fact that they haven’t build anything
      regarding SQ42, or are still failing at delivering something worth
      playable at all might, but let’s not look to deep into that.

      Let’s
      assume that CIG has money issues. Recent events are a strong indication
      of that. The ungoing sales for cash only, the loan in the UK et cetera
      are clear signs of that. They spend most of the money they received in
      the past years on all their studios, the staff etc. yet have little
      finished product to show for and the new income stream isn’t enough to
      cover the monthly expenses. So, there comes a point when the costs are
      higher than the money left. If you know that’s coming, the best things
      to do are:

      1. increasing the income
      2. cutting down expenses

      Since
      1. is clearly getting exhausted, mainly because of the fact they still
      can’t produce a decent Alpha build and keep on feeding the backers lots
      of BS, only 2. remains. However, telling the community that despite the
      fact that there still isn’t a game after all those years and money
      spend, expenses have to be cut down by closing offices – therefore also
      reducing the people actually working on the game – is not a real option.
      It would be regarded as proof that the money is gone. After 155m having
      to admit to the backers that there is not enough money left to continue
      building on the old scale would be killing. The only way to avoid that,
      other than releasing a working game as promised (or full financial
      disclosure), is to act as if nothing is wrong. Meaning burning through
      the remaining money at the same speed.

      So, what to do? At
      Gamescom 2016 Chris stated that 3.0 was nearly there. Now, a year later,
      3.0 is still not there. And they are defending that by saying they
      almost had a working small 3.0 but decided to skip that and go for a big
      3.0 with lots of extra features et cetera. Unfortunately, backers can
      easily point out that most if not all of those extra’s were originally
      intented for the small 3.0 or are now even less than for the original
      small 3.0 release. The number of ignorant backers is getting lower, more
      and more are mainly fed up with being lied to. It doesn’t mean they are
      giving up on SC yet, but the will to put in extra money (again) is
      drying up. Failing to be honest is getting a bigger problem for CIG than
      failing to deliver 3.0.

      Now Gamescom 2017 is coming in three
      weeks. There is no 3.0 released yet, not even to the inner circle of
      Avocado’s. Most likely reason, there isn’t a 3.0 ready to be delivered.
      So again, a choice. Going to Gamescon without a 3.0 release. Chris would
      have to be a great talker to justify that after his statement from
      2016. He’ll probably try to deflect that with a lot of handwaving, big
      dreams and futuretelling and by showing beautiful R&D videoclips of
      things to come. Possibly with huge sandworms. They might even have a
      totally pre-loaded and scipted 3.0 gamerun availble for an “independent”
      backer to “play”. Only this time, the backers know what’s coming. Been
      there last year, seen that last year. Yawn… So, it might spike the
      hype a little again, but it won’t be the major revenue boost they hope
      for. Of course, according to their funding tracker, it will be a huge
      success.

      The other option is putting the not-ready 3.0 out there
      with the Avocado’s. Where it will be a major disappointment and that
      will leak. The frustration of waiting over a year for something that
      even then doesn’t deliver will get the most hardcore backer over. In a
      way, the overhyping and overanticipating by the backers is now becoming
      an extra burden for CIG. There is no way to live up to those
      expectations.

      Best scenario: succesfully feeding the hype (again)
      at Gamescom with lots of clips etc. to generate money. Releasing 3.0
      quickly right after and hoping that a better performing 3.0x can be made
      available before Shitizencon in October. There another run of big
      stories and videoclips with the statement, see, we did release 3.0 so
      we’re still on the slow but right track. So keep giving us money so we
      can complete the BDSSE.

      The remaining number of totally ignorant
      backers will determine how long CIG can continue the current operation.
      My guess it won’t be long now. Regardless how much everybody might want
      SC to succeed, it’s just not going to happen.

      And no, you don’t have to rebuttal my post with arguments,
      quotes, statements, videolinks and what not, to show that you think
      there is nothing wrong with the (financial) situation of CIG, that there
      might or might not be a game, that delays are to be expected when
      building something completely new and/or of this magnitude, et cetera,
      et cetera, et cetera. We’ve been there, we’ve done that. It’s obvious that Star Citizen is a disaster and that it
      will collapse shortly. I’ll be the second (after Derek) to admit that he
      was wrong if we’re still all here in a couple of years predicting CIG
      will fall over shortly. But that’s no more reality than Star Citizen
      ever being released.

    • Marty

      People have been threatened if they get their refunds. Many people are hiding their identity to get their money back. https://goo.gl/NeUTNG < Realized I was in too deep ($16,925)!

      Amazing how anyone can spend this much on a game that is clearly not going to release with what Chris Roberts has promised. Clearly to a lot of us, this is nothing more than a scam!

      Get that refund today before it's too late!

      • Joe_Blober

        Yeah troll….

        Here is a copy of a refund of 108,730.46$ ‘hence more than 100K$)
        https://imgur.com/3tqgBK1

        Looks true right? Fake of course…I did it myself in minutes just to parody the others fake found on internet…

        And the link provided by Marty Troll, as per the web site itself:

        Sorry folks, nothing to see here. Turns out the refund was a fake. 🙂

        But there is one truth… It is not too late to join 3.0 coming in few weeks!!

        Welcome to the Verse guys!

        • Marty

          ROFL, that’s proof? Try again, show us proof that guy actually played 3.0 and if he did why haven’t the backers played it?

          • Joe_Blober

            But this 16K$ refund was fake right… Is ti fake or not? Fake not fake? Fake… 🙂

    • Phoni Faux

      Oh boy I can’t wait for 3.0 it’s just a little late because it needs some polishing, A YEARS WORTH AT THIS POINT. Jeez he said it was ready last year but needed polishing. Then he said December, boy they were so close. Then when the funds started to dry up they said early summer. Now they say August.

      This is just like Lucy moving the football for Charlie Brown except Charlie knew Lucy would move the football. you lot believe the lie. At least you say you do.

      Yeah he is polishing something alright, his knob most likely. I cannot believe that anyone would still trust Roberts. or any of his supposed schedules written on toilet paper.

    • Phoni Faux

      Blah Blah Blah ,delay 3.0, Blah. Give us money please Blah. BDSS Blah. Evocati Blah Blah blah Just you wait Blah.We love out backers, Blah, Their Money, Blah that is, Blah.

      • Joe_Blober

        Blah Blah Blah I do not get a clue about how game are developed Blah Blah Blah I get refunded of 1.654.778 $ Blah Blah Blah CR is sending Death Commando on SC haters Blah Blah Blah… Keep feeling this section man… you make flee the few readers still coming on PC web site 🙂

    • Joe_Blober

      Yet…The idnependant journalist Christopher Livingston did played already 3.0 before everybody:
      https://www.pcgamer.com/first-man-on-the-moon-hands-on-with-star-citizen-alpha-30/

      Trolling is hard those days… 🙂

      Note: by the way: CIG received + 260K$ in 4 days… a tragedy… people give funds… not refund 🙂

    • Feniks

      Funny how SQ42 is not talked about while Wing Commander is what made Roberts famous. Yeah I played those games, guy was gold in the 90s.

      Would never trust him with a MMO to beat all MMOs (seen plenty of those in my 20 years as a gamer) but I would have supported a new WC. I mean SQ42 is the only thing I think he could pull off.

      All I can say is: hope none of y’all follow Roberts to his compound in French Guyana.

      • Joe_Blober

        Feniks your nice support is very refreshing… CR not being a con developers, backers riks is to get either a good game or… a very good game.
        Believe it or not, story about CR buying resort or Island in pacific with backers money is not true… 🙂

    • https://steamcommunity.com/id/colr/ Col

      I love your CIG pieces, Paul. They never fail to lead to vast and hugely entertaining comment threads. Let’s just pray old mate Chris can string this out as long as possible – years of drama still to be had!